ff_badlands - Page 56

GeoKill-----> · 03-06-2008, 03:34 AM

Can't someone else compile for you?

stino · 03-07-2008, 10:41 AM

compiling isnt a final process, it has to be repeated untill the final product is perfect, every compile you notice little things that should be changed.
And sometimes my pc just say: hell, i quit! and then it reboots ... and then i have to recompile all over again ...

conc_course originally compiled in 10 minutes, last time (few days back) i started at 16:00 and at 18:00 it still wasnt finished..., this isn't normal!
and only thing i changed were a few texture alignments and tweaking of the light constants.

greenday5494 · 03-07-2008, 06:41 PM

check if everything is optimized correctly. is it VVIS that is taking forever, and compiling is a very very very very very VERY CPU dependent process, whats you CPU?

Mr. Happy · 03-07-2008, 09:59 PM

In no map, no matter how large or complex, should VVIS ever take more than 45 seconds.

Post vvis portion of compile log.

Turn off all your visgroups, then turn world geometry on, turn off water and displacements, and look for small floating things.

Add areaportals to delineate base from canyon.

greenday5494 · 03-07-2008, 10:15 PM

VVIS on my really old computer (2500+ CPU) took forever. now, on my 5600+X2, the whole compile process, including VRAD and VVIS and VBSP takes about 1 minute.

Nuk3m · 03-08-2008, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stino

compiling isnt a final process, it has to be repeated untill the final product is perfect, every compile you notice little things that should be changed.
And sometimes my pc just say: hell, i quit! and then it reboots ... and then i have to recompile all over again ...

conc_course originally compiled in 10 minutes, last time (few days back) i started at 16:00 and at 18:00 it still wasnt finished..., this isn't normal!
and only thing i changed were a few texture alignments and tweaking of the light constants.

Stino, im on a high end machine, if you would like, you can send me the files and I can do a compile for you. It sounds like its your ram or something. maybe a bad chip? or irregular voltage can cause a pc reboot aka: failing PSU

greenday5494 · 03-08-2008, 06:49 AM

or i could compile. every map i compile takes less than a minute, but, my internet is what kills me

stino · 03-11-2008, 11:46 AM

compile times are from a quite high end pc, 3.8ghz and 3gb of ram, only not dual core

and as for vis optimalization, using glview i see what i want to see, quite big leafs and almost no messed up parts.

Nuk3m · 03-11-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stino

compile times are from a quite high end pc, 3.8ghz and 3gb of ram, only not dual core

and as for vis optimalization, using glview i see what i want to see, quite big leafs and almost no messed up parts.

it sounds like the map needs big time optimization, maybe not with brushes or displacements, but vis blockers hopefully will do the trick. even one little fucked up brush, that wasnt set to a displacment or detail can make the compile time epicly retarded. im a newb to mapping and i learned that the very hard way.

stino · 03-11-2008, 05:38 PM

optimizing? why? why did it compile a time ago and why doesnt it compile now?
optimalisation didnt change since then so ...

greenday5494 · 03-11-2008, 06:39 PM

because it's valve

Gwarsbane · 04-29-2008, 04:55 PM

I know its been a while, but I would like to make a suggestion as to why you're having compile problems...

http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...&postcount=295

Quote:

I like to keep people guessing.

But the compiler problem wasn't actually a compiler problem. I feel like an idiot, but it was just problem with the map causing bsp to fail instantly.

Once I figured that out, it turned out to just be a displacement that had accidentally gotten tied to an entity. So now I've got leaks and area portals not touching two areas. My spider sense tells me that one is causing the other but I'm not sure which way it goes...

EDIT: THE MAP COMPILES!! WOOT! It was a really clean compile too, with none of the bitchy little leaf portal errors or things like that. The map was over the max brush limit, but the rooms I removed from the 2nd section brought it back under the limit. There's still a ton to do but all the major hassles are gone (for the time being). Wahay!

Maybe this is the same kind of problem you're map is having. I hope so cause I really would like to see Badlands continue to be worked on, though I wouldn't mind seeing it bigger.

pF · 07-18-2008, 01:25 PM

Pleeeaaasseee finish this :>

Nezumi · 07-21-2008, 08:42 AM

Ditto. Badlands was my favorite TFC map after well. This one looked great.

Nuk3m · 07-21-2008, 06:21 PM

Stino - Last Activity: 06-26-2008 04:54 PM

greenday5494 · 07-22-2008, 07:05 AM

a month ago :\

**Bully** · 07-22-2008, 07:39 AM

I tried calling but no response, someone else try give him a call or an email

http://www.sgware.be/?p=contact

Nezumi · 07-22-2008, 10:22 AM

A month is more recent than I would have thought.

Well, hopefully he can at least pass the vmf to someone who can finish it*.

*me.

stino · 07-22-2008, 11:05 AM

yeah maybe ..., or maybe not, but i'm also still wayting for bug reports on the last one, nobody complains, but i still find tons of bugs

Nezumi · 07-22-2008, 11:58 AM

STINO!!

Hi! Helpful hint: Don't let badlands go unreleased or I'll find you and cut you!

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03-06-2008, 03:34 AM	#1101
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Can't someone else compile for you? __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

03-07-2008, 06:41 PM	#1103
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	check if everything is optimized correctly. is it VVIS that is taking forever, and compiling is a very very very very very VERY CPU dependent process, whats you CPU? __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

03-07-2008, 09:59 PM	#1104
Mr. Happy FF LOL Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	In no map, no matter how large or complex, should VVIS ever take more than 45 seconds. Post vvis portion of compile log. Turn off all your visgroups, then turn world geometry on, turn off water and displacements, and look for small floating things. Add areaportals to delineate base from canyon. Last edited by Mr. Happy; 03-07-2008 at 10:14 PM.

03-07-2008, 10:15 PM	#1105
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	VVIS on my really old computer (2500+ CPU) took forever. now, on my 5600+X2, the whole compile process, including VRAD and VVIS and VBSP takes about 1 minute. __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

03-07-2008, 10:41 AM	#1102
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	compiling isnt a final process, it has to be repeated untill the final product is perfect, every compile you notice little things that should be changed. And sometimes my pc just say: hell, i quit! and then it reboots ... and then i have to recompile all over again ... conc_course originally compiled in 10 minutes, last time (few days back) i started at 16:00 and at 18:00 it still wasnt finished..., this isn't normal! and only thing i changed were a few texture alignments and tweaking of the light constants.

03-08-2008, 06:49 AM	#1107
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	or i could compile. every map i compile takes less than a minute, but, my internet is what kills me __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

03-11-2008, 11:46 AM	#1108
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	compile times are from a quite high end pc, 3.8ghz and 3gb of ram, only not dual core and as for vis optimalization, using glview i see what i want to see, quite big leafs and almost no messed up parts.

03-11-2008, 05:38 PM	#1110
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	optimizing? why? why did it compile a time ago and why doesnt it compile now? optimalisation didnt change since then so ...

03-11-2008, 06:39 PM	#1111
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	because it's valve __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

07-18-2008, 01:25 PM	#1113
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Pleeeaaasseee finish this :> __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

07-21-2008, 08:42 AM	#1114
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Ditto. Badlands was my favorite TFC map after well. This one looked great. __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

07-21-2008, 06:21 PM	#1115
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Stino - Last Activity: 06-26-2008 04:54 PM

07-22-2008, 07:05 AM	#1116
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	a month ago :\ __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

07-22-2008, 07:39 AM	#1117
Bully Beta Tester Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yorkshire, England Class/Position: Spectating Gametype: British Bulldogs Affiliations: ®™ ^ Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	I tried calling but no response, someone else try give him a call or an email http://www.sgware.be/?p=contact __________________ ®™ Support FF:

07-22-2008, 10:22 AM	#1118
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	A month is more recent than I would have thought. Well, hopefully he can at least pass the vmf to someone who can finish it. me. __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

07-22-2008, 11:05 AM	#1119
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah maybe ..., or maybe not, but i'm also still wayting for bug reports on the last one, nobody complains, but i still find tons of bugs

07-22-2008, 11:58 AM	#1120
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	STINO!! Hi! Helpful hint: Don't let badlands go unreleased or I'll find you and cut you! __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

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