Lady In the Water - Page 2

o_swampthing · 07-26-2006, 07:48 PM

I actually really liked signs as well. I have to say, I've yet to see a M. Knight movie I haven't enjoyed.

The village imo was amazing.

Jiggles · 07-26-2006, 10:19 PM

Most of the characters in his movies behave and speak like they're semi-retarded and semi-drugged (I didn't see the Village, though). I don't know if he's just bad at motivating actors, but they honestly seem kinda bored. The 6th Sense was kinda dull, but it had a great payoff. His other movies? Not so much.

Unbreakable...
Heh, Mr. Glass. If there's a person who is so very fragile there simply must be another who is super-powered enough to survive a train wreck. Yeah, that's logical...
The premise of Unbreakable - everyday superhero - was pretty good, but that last scene just ruined it.

Signs...
Advanced alien race defeated by earth's pathogens? Maaaaybe...
Advanced alien race defeated by water? Oh come on...
And the girl leaving glasses of water around the house: Welcome to Convenient Plot Device 101.

"It felt wrong not to swing." Dude! You're dumb!

o_puppychow · 07-26-2006, 10:23 PM

the cool things about signs is that the story was not about the aliens..it was about the relationships between the characters and their own problems..

the girl with the water was not a device for the end...all of their little quirks - the kid having athsma, the girl leaving water around, gibson leaving the priesthood, his wife dying, merril leaving baseball were meant to show the interconnectiveness of things and how they happen for a reason - even if i dont agree with that

i agreed 100% with this review..

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...208020305/1023

o_frenchtoast · 07-26-2006, 10:33 PM

Signs, in four easy steps.

I agree with that review.

o_puppychow · 07-26-2006, 10:34 PM

he's overrated and a cliche'.

Jiggles · 07-26-2006, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puppychow

the cool things about signs is that the story was not about the aliens..it was about the relationships between the characters and their own problems..

Then he shouldn't have picked such a stupid premise. Have, I don't know, maybe an earthquate throw them together - something less distracting than ALIENS! How about mutant land worms? (Tremors, heh)
Even without the aliens, though, the characters were unlikeable and dull. I was cheering for them to get vaporised by the aliens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by puppychow

the girl with the water was not a device for the end...all of their little quirks - the kid having athsma, the girl leaving water around, gibson leaving the priesthood, his wife dying, merril leaving baseball were meant to show the interconnectiveness of things and how they happen for a reason - even if i dont agree with that

You're right, it wasn't just the girl. All the characters were transparent plot devices for Nighty to get his dumb message across

Things do happen for a reason. But not because someone wrote a dumb script

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Originally Posted by Maddox

That's exactly what "Signs" is like: the camera man zooming up on some guy's ass for two hours.

lol

o_dancingfool · 07-26-2006, 10:42 PM

FT's link made some pretty good points. That movie was pretty funny, especially when you hear the news announcer "several middle eastern countries have found an effective way of battling the creatures, but are unwilling to share it"

Jiggles · 07-26-2006, 11:09 PM

The aliens were really a metaphor for love

o_yomamashouse · 07-27-2006, 12:10 AM

That is quite obvious now that i look, why else would they run around in a hostile environment naked?

o_puppychow · 07-27-2006, 12:48 AM

ug...AGAIN, the alien thing was not what the movie was about: it was a device to expoler the characters further.

o_dancingfool · 07-27-2006, 12:59 AM

When I go to see a movie about an alien invasion I want an alien invasion with big fights, not some semi emo togetherness crap.

o_puppychow · 07-27-2006, 01:00 AM

but the movie wasnt about an alien invasion.

o_dancingfool · 07-27-2006, 01:00 AM

That's what I came away from the commercial with.

It doesn't exactly scream familiy bonding.

o_puppychow · 07-27-2006, 01:19 AM

that poster was for the simpleminded unwashed masses like you.

o_frenchtoast · 07-27-2006, 01:31 AM

The movie blew, stop trying to defend it by saying it's about something else.

o_puppychow · 07-27-2006, 01:34 AM

well, i would disagree considering there has been more praise than knocks from people who's job it is to see movies and have more of a ref. point than either of us.

o_swampthing · 07-27-2006, 04:42 AM

I use to joke around with a ex co-worker of mine about why some people hated the village. We came to the conclusion that because it lacked the *pachoo* *pachoo* sound effect of laser weapons, explosions, and special effects it was disliked.

Honestly I think M. Knights films are more intelectual than alot of movies these days. Maybe the general public is too dumb to appreciate them? I'm not saying posters here are, but I know someone who works in a video store as a clerk, and people do tend to rent the most absurd, god awfully dumb movies available.

I think M. Knight brings back an old style of movie making similar to Alfred Hitchcock. It's not about what you see to entertain you, it's more about what you don't see, and that let's your imagination run rampant. That's really a big part of signs, and the village.

o_etzell · 07-27-2006, 05:19 AM

It's great how people will defend M. Night's movies as "Oh, it's an INTELLECTUAL movie", thus, if you didn't like it/thought it was transparent, you're OBVIOUSLY a retard.

The ideas are shit, the excecution is shit, it's just not good filmmaking. Just because there is background information doesn't make it a) an incredibly intellectual film or b) good. End of story.

Circuitous · 07-27-2006, 05:27 AM

ETZELL THEY NEED SOMETHING TO FEEL SUPERIOR ABOUT DON'T RUIN IT FOR THEM. Okay thanks!

omega · 07-27-2006, 06:14 AM

lol...

i liked the sixth sense and signs, but haven't really cared for the other films shyamalan has done.

and puppychow is pretty much spot on. signs--to those people who actually think about movies after they see them--really wasn't about aliens. to me, the ideas were interesting, the execution was interesting, and it was pretty solid and interesting filmmaking. if you didn't like that it didn't have big explosions and such, then hey, that's your perogative. god forbid people have different opinions in regard to entertainment mediums!

07-27-2006, 05:27 AM	#39
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	ETZELL THEY NEED SOMETHING TO FEEL SUPERIOR ABOUT DON'T RUIN IT FOR THEM. Okay thanks! __________________ Look at all those dead links.

07-26-2006, 07:48 PM	#21
o_swampthing Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NY Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I actually really liked signs as well. I have to say, I've yet to see a M. Knight movie I haven't enjoyed. The village imo was amazing.

07-26-2006, 10:19 PM	#22
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Most of the characters in his movies behave and speak like they're semi-retarded and semi-drugged (I didn't see the Village, though). I don't know if he's just bad at motivating actors, but they honestly seem kinda bored. The 6th Sense was kinda dull, but it had a great payoff. His other movies? Not so much. Unbreakable... Heh, Mr. Glass. If there's a person who is so very fragile there simply must be another who is super-powered enough to survive a train wreck. Yeah, that's logical... The premise of Unbreakable - everyday superhero - was pretty good, but that last scene just ruined it. Signs... Advanced alien race defeated by earth's pathogens? Maaaaybe... Advanced alien race defeated by water? Oh come on... And the girl leaving glasses of water around the house: Welcome to Convenient Plot Device 101. "It felt wrong not to swing." Dude! You're dumb!

07-26-2006, 10:23 PM	#23
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the cool things about signs is that the story was not about the aliens..it was about the relationships between the characters and their own problems.. the girl with the water was not a device for the end...all of their little quirks - the kid having athsma, the girl leaving water around, gibson leaving the priesthood, his wife dying, merril leaving baseball were meant to show the interconnectiveness of things and how they happen for a reason - even if i dont agree with that i agreed 100% with this review.. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...208020305/1023

07-26-2006, 10:33 PM	#24
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Signs, in four easy steps. I agree with that review.

07-26-2006, 10:34 PM	#25
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	he's overrated and a cliche'.

07-26-2006, 10:42 PM	#27
o_dancingfool Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	FT's link made some pretty good points. That movie was pretty funny, especially when you hear the news announcer "several middle eastern countries have found an effective way of battling the creatures, but are unwilling to share it"

07-26-2006, 11:09 PM	#28
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The aliens were really a metaphor for love

07-27-2006, 12:10 AM	#29
o_yomamashouse Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Your Mamas House Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That is quite obvious now that i look, why else would they run around in a hostile environment naked?

07-27-2006, 12:48 AM	#30
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ug...AGAIN, the alien thing was not what the movie was about: it was a device to expoler the characters further.

07-27-2006, 12:59 AM	#31
o_dancingfool Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	When I go to see a movie about an alien invasion I want an alien invasion with big fights, not some semi emo togetherness crap.

07-27-2006, 01:00 AM	#32
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	but the movie wasnt about an alien invasion.

07-27-2006, 01:19 AM	#34
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	that poster was for the simpleminded unwashed masses like you.

07-27-2006, 01:31 AM	#35
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The movie blew, stop trying to defend it by saying it's about something else.

07-27-2006, 01:34 AM	#36
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	well, i would disagree considering there has been more praise than knocks from people who's job it is to see movies and have more of a ref. point than either of us.

07-27-2006, 04:42 AM	#37
o_swampthing Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NY Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I use to joke around with a ex co-worker of mine about why some people hated the village. We came to the conclusion that because it lacked the pachoo pachoo sound effect of laser weapons, explosions, and special effects it was disliked. Honestly I think M. Knights films are more intelectual than alot of movies these days. Maybe the general public is too dumb to appreciate them? I'm not saying posters here are, but I know someone who works in a video store as a clerk, and people do tend to rent the most absurd, god awfully dumb movies available. I think M. Knight brings back an old style of movie making similar to Alfred Hitchcock. It's not about what you see to entertain you, it's more about what you don't see, and that let's your imagination run rampant. That's really a big part of signs, and the village.

07-27-2006, 05:19 AM	#38
o_etzell Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's great how people will defend M. Night's movies as "Oh, it's an INTELLECTUAL movie", thus, if you didn't like it/thought it was transparent, you're OBVIOUSLY a retard. The ideas are shit, the excecution is shit, it's just not good filmmaking. Just because there is background information doesn't make it a) an incredibly intellectual film or b) good. End of story.

07-27-2006, 06:14 AM	#40
omega Retired FF Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	lol... i liked the sixth sense and signs, but haven't really cared for the other films shyamalan has done. and puppychow is pretty much spot on. signs--to those people who actually think about movies after they see them--really wasn't about aliens. to me, the ideas were interesting, the execution was interesting, and it was pretty solid and interesting filmmaking. if you didn't like that it didn't have big explosions and such, then hey, that's your perogative. god forbid people have different opinions in regard to entertainment mediums!

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