FF in Games For Windows (formerly known as Computer Gaming World)

Abjure · 11-01-2007, 12:32 AM

So FF got an article (not a review or anything but kind of a two page mention) in the latest Games For Windows magazine. I don't have a scanner here or the magazine with me for that matter but tomorrow I'll try to scan it at work. Just wondering if anyone else saw it?

Edit:

<-- sort of a preview from 1up's site.)

Mulchman MM · 11-01-2007, 01:19 AM

Wow... CGW is called "Games for Windows"???

groovyf · 11-01-2007, 01:21 AM

Sounds like a Microsoft ploy!

Pyromaniac · 11-01-2007, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by groovyf

Sounds like a Microsoft ploy!

Thats because it is. I'm pretty sure Microsoft bought them out.

RocKwell · 11-01-2007, 02:47 AM

I have this issue and read the three page article (it's near the back). They kind of trash the mod, here are some quotes:

"In Team Fortress Classic, the Spy was a class that required finesse and know-how; in FF, it's an invisible nuisance machine for melee-minded twits who think a knife to the back is the epitome of skill"

"Some of Fortress Forever's tweaks on TFC's formula are god-awful, however well-intentioned."

"FF is the perfect partner for Team Fortress 2, and for that I'm thankful. When we want hyperactive trick jumping and tradition, there's the one; when we want the future, there's the other."

They also devoted a whole page into talking how to clear out a server during a game of push by hoarding the ball, and also had to mention how annoying a medic's infections were. Exposure is exposure, I guess, but they really didn't give FF a chance.

Jiggles · 11-01-2007, 03:59 AM

Hmmm...was there a bribe we forgot to send in?

4est · 11-01-2007, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Hmmm...was there a bribe we forgot to send in?

Yes... but it's never too late.

Check PM for my Paypal info.

**mervaka** · 11-01-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RocKwell

I have this issue and read the three page article (it's near the back). They kind of trash the mod, here are some quotes:

"In Team Fortress Classic, the Spy was a class that required finesse and know-how; in FF, it's an invisible nuisance machine for melee-minded twits who think a knife to the back is the epitome of skill"

"Some of Fortress Forever's tweaks on TFC's formula are god-awful, however well-intentioned."

"FF is the perfect partner for Team Fortress 2, and for that I'm thankful. When we want hyperactive trick jumping and tradition, there's the one; when we want the future, there's the other."

They also devoted a whole page into talking how to clear out a server during a game of push by hoarding the ball, and also had to mention how annoying a medic's infections were. Exposure is exposure, I guess, but they really didn't give FF a chance.

some of those seem a little below the belt..

Abjure · 11-01-2007, 11:36 AM

Yeah a lot of what they said wasn't exactly fair... Although I don't know how much of it was actually serious I couldn't tell.

Private_Joker · 11-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RocKwell

"FF is the perfect partner for Team Fortress 2, and for that I'm thankful. When we want hyperactive trick jumping and tradition, there's the one; when we want the future, there's the other."

The anger sharks are swimming in my head.

I'm sick of the future. All I hear about is the fucking future...the better, the could be, the optimized...we move away from the present like it's already fucking yesterday...THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HAVE SUCH SHORT GOD DAMNED ATTENTION SPANS! Because of people like this wanker, nobody will ever respect gamers.

But here we are, a tiny community of honest gamers. We may not get respect, but at least we're respectable, damn it.

-Joker

Dr.Uudge · 11-01-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mervaka

some of those seem a little below the belt..

indeed, they were a kick in the crotch. when FF becomes a standard of tf type mods, I hope someone does a counter-article labeled "How tunnel vision causes brain damage."

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Originally Posted by Private Joker

I'm sick of the future. All I hear about is the fucking future...the better, the could be, the optimized...we move away from the present like it's already fucking yesterday...THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HAVE SUCH SHORT GOD DAMNED ATTENTION SPANS!

That "future" thing is something i learned in pyschology class. It's the power of suggestion. "The future" is an embedded/loaded term, meaning that it's loaded with implications of something that can be good/improved/better/etc than present, even if its not the case. What matters is not that it's true/false, but that the general feeling someone gets from the term supercedes the notion of true/false. Because then opinions can be formed without factual information, but instead on an emotional/sentimental level.

To make a long story short, it's an indirect ad for TF2 by comparing it to a similar model, but using a strawman to knock the other down, while using loaded terms to appeal to the sentiments of those being advertised to. Yea...

yfni_ · 11-01-2007, 05:45 PM

Feel free to send some spam to their mail address:

feedback@1UP.com

bastards :/

RocKwell · 11-01-2007, 09:15 PM

I had to laugh when I read about the spy. Have they ever tried capturing the flag in TFC against a standard organized defense with the spy? In FF, the spy requires just as much if not more skill than any other class IMO.

Abjure · 11-01-2007, 10:10 PM

I was busy today at work and I couldn't get some scans, I'll attempt it tomorrow!

Zatoichi · 11-01-2007, 10:22 PM

thx yfni_, i sent my rant in.

Surrealistik · 11-02-2007, 02:56 AM

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"In Team Fortress Classic, the Spy was a class that required finesse and know-how; in FF, it's an invisible nuisance machine for melee-minded twits who think a knife to the back is the epitome of skill"

Lol. That comment in and of itself epitomizes the ignorance of the author, and discredits nearly everything he has to say regarding FFs gameplay. I'd wonder if he has ever attempted to use the Spy against a competent and organized team if the answer weren't already so completely self-evident. Unfortunately, as ludicrous as his opinons are, they get a lot more exposure, and feature far more influence than our own.

Zatoichi · 11-02-2007, 03:22 AM

i have a feeling he got pwned by spies and it hurt his ego, or maybe he just got his ass kicked all together, and needs to feel superior and write a crap review.

leilei · 11-02-2007, 03:27 AM

yeah I don't like GFW either, they called my game "looks like ass " once. and then dropped it and moved on >=( plus I never liked post-2000 CGW when Jeff Green acted all high and mighty putting his lame dead-horse Daikatana jokes all over each issue as a filler.

Desyphur · 11-02-2007, 05:07 AM

Which game leilei?

fishBurger · 11-02-2007, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulchman MM

Wow... CGW is called "Games for Windows"???

I think they started running short on articles about games for macs...

11-01-2007, 12:32 AM	#1
Abjure Follower of the Occult Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	FF in Games For Windows (formerly known as Computer Gaming World) So FF got an article (not a review or anything but kind of a two page mention) in the latest Games For Windows magazine. I don't have a scanner here or the magazine with me for that matter but tomorrow I'll try to scan it at work. Just wondering if anyone else saw it? Edit: <-- sort of a preview from 1up's site.)

11-01-2007, 01:19 AM	#2
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wow... CGW is called "Games for Windows"??? __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

11-02-2007, 05:07 AM	#19
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Which game leilei? __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

11-01-2007, 01:21 AM	#3
groovyf In the clouds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Halifax, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sounds like a Microsoft ploy!

11-01-2007, 02:47 AM	#5
RocKwell Regular or Menthol? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central MI Affiliations: :e0: .o` Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I have this issue and read the three page article (it's near the back). They kind of trash the mod, here are some quotes: "In Team Fortress Classic, the Spy was a class that required finesse and know-how; in FF, it's an invisible nuisance machine for melee-minded twits who think a knife to the back is the epitome of skill" "Some of Fortress Forever's tweaks on TFC's formula are god-awful, however well-intentioned." "FF is the perfect partner for Team Fortress 2, and for that I'm thankful. When we want hyperactive trick jumping and tradition, there's the one; when we want the future, there's the other." They also devoted a whole page into talking how to clear out a server during a game of push by hoarding the ball, and also had to mention how annoying a medic's infections were. Exposure is exposure, I guess, but they really didn't give FF a chance.

11-01-2007, 03:59 AM	#6
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hmmm...was there a bribe we forgot to send in?

11-01-2007, 11:36 AM	#9
Abjure Follower of the Occult Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah a lot of what they said wasn't exactly fair... Although I don't know how much of it was actually serious I couldn't tell.

11-01-2007, 05:45 PM	#12
yfni_ Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Feel free to send some spam to their mail address: feedback@1UP.com bastards :/

11-01-2007, 09:15 PM	#13
RocKwell Regular or Menthol? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central MI Affiliations: :e0: .o` Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I had to laugh when I read about the spy. Have they ever tried capturing the flag in TFC against a standard organized defense with the spy? In FF, the spy requires just as much if not more skill than any other class IMO.

11-01-2007, 10:10 PM	#14
Abjure Follower of the Occult Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I was busy today at work and I couldn't get some scans, I'll attempt it tomorrow!

11-01-2007, 10:22 PM	#15
Zatoichi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Upstate New York Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thx yfni_, i sent my rant in.

11-02-2007, 03:22 AM	#17
Zatoichi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Upstate New York Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i have a feeling he got pwned by spies and it hurt his ego, or maybe he just got his ass kicked all together, and needs to feel superior and write a crap review.

11-02-2007, 03:27 AM	#18
leilei o^_^o Join Date: Nov 2007 Class/Position: O Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah I don't like GFW either, they called my game "looks like ass " once. and then dropped it and moved on >=( plus I never liked post-2000 CGW when Jeff Green acted all high and mighty putting his lame dead-horse Daikatana jokes all over each issue as a filler.

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