Walmart - A study in numbers.

MyNameIsChuck · 09-19-2007, 05:42 AM

Did you know that wal-mart could give every full time employee a 2.5$ per hour raise and still make money?

Walmart made over 12 billion dollars profit last year. Walmart has over 2 million full time employees. Could give every single full time employee an extra $6,000 dollar check per year and still make money.

Scary.

Ihmhi · 09-19-2007, 06:01 AM

They pretty much have a monopoly and force many local American businesses OUT of business by requiring unreasonable cutbacks. They also do not allow their employees to unionize. Remember, at Wal-mart, the stockholders matter!

Scary.

GeoKill-----> · 09-19-2007, 06:02 AM

Don't see how this is scary...

uBeR · 09-19-2007, 06:18 AM

A corporation's goal is maximize profit, not minimize it.

Do you want to know why your argument is completely bunk? It's because if they paid each of their 2,000,000 full-time employees $6,000 more per year, their profit would be $0. That's something their shareholders would be happy with, I'm sure.

And actually, their profits are at 11.3B with 1.9M employees, many of which I assume are only part-time.

09-19-2007, 09:35 AM

The whole idea here is for the company to make the money, if they have 2M or so employees being paid at the rate they are, why raise their income any more then they have to? As long as they are staying within the states minimum wage policy, they are fine.

Teh Hwoling Manz · 09-19-2007, 12:08 PM

No unions though, that's scary shit. Like, Orwellian scary.

BinaryLife · 09-19-2007, 07:38 PM

Walmart is retail, retailers don't pay their employees that much. Walmart is no different.

I was at Circuit City and all of us rarely got any raises and were constistantly required to work longer and harder without getting raises. Shortly after I quit they lower their pay cap and asked anyone who was over it to take the new, lower pay or leave. It hit big news a while back.

The goal of any company is to maximize profit, and minimize cost. The goal of any employee is to maximize payout and minimize effort. An equilibrium is met. People wouldn't work at Walmart if they thought they were getting a raw deal, they would go someplace else. They offer cheap benefits and money to people willing to stand around for 8 hours a day and essentially do nothing but take crap from ignorant customers.

It's not pretty, but it's not evil or malicious either.

Deadly Furby · 09-19-2007, 07:58 PM

Fun things to do Wal-Mart while the spouse or significant other is taking her sweet time!

1. Set all the alarm clocks to go off at ten minute intervals throughout the day.

2. Make a trail of orange juice on the floor, leading to the restrooms.

3. Greet customers at the front door with "Welcome to Sprawl-Mart" and tell them everything is buy one get one free today.

4. Move "Caution: Wet Floor" signs to carpeted areas.

5. When someone asks if you need help, begin to cry and ask, "Why won't you people just leave me alone?"

6. Take up an entire aisle in Toys by setting up a full scale battlefield with G. I. Joes vs. the X-Men.

7. While handling guns in the hunting department, suddenly ask the clerk if he knows where the anti-depressants are.

8. Switch the men's and women's signs on the doors of the restroom.

9. Dart around suspiciously while humming the theme from "Mission Impossible."

10. Set up a "Valet Parking" sign in front of the store

11. Hide in the clothing racks and when people browse through, say things like "pick me! pick me!!"

12. When an announcement comes over the loudspeaker, assume the fetal position and scream, "No, no! It's those voices again!"

13. If the store has a food court, buy a soft drink; explain that you don't get out much, and ask if they can put a little umbrella in it.

14. Go into the dressing room and yell real loud..."Hey, we're out of toilet paper in here!"

15. Put one pack of M&M's on layaway.

16. Walk up to an employee and tell him in an official tone, "I think we've got a Code 3 in housewares," and see what happens.

17. Get boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they don't realize it.

Teh Hwoling Manz · 09-19-2007, 09:57 PM

It's true that retailers don't pay much and treat their employees like shit. I used to work at Target and that was one of the shittiest jobs I had. (Except for the time I worked at Chuck E. Cheese, but that's a whole 'nother story.)

I happened to luck out and I work at a grocery store (Schnuck's) with a strong union (Local 881) And I'm guaranteed pay raises after working for a certain number of hours. Lots of protection from being wrongfully unemployed as well. Sure, they take a few bucks out of my paycheck but it's my strong belief that it's well worth it.

GeoKill-----> · 09-19-2007, 10:07 PM

That was a good read Howling Man

zSilver_Fox · 09-19-2007, 11:57 PM

Penn & Teller did something on that. I'm quite sure the Unions would LOVE to get their hands on Wal-Mart, as all the combined dues would equal more money. I agree with the idea behind a union, but not the way they're being used for exploitation.

MyNameIsChuck · 09-20-2007, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox

Penn & Teller did something on that. I'm quite sure the Unions would LOVE to get their hands on Wal-Mart, as all the combined dues would equal more money. I agree with the idea behind a union, but not the way they're being used for exploitation.

There is a reason wal-mart opposes unions, and let me tell you, it isn't because of unions exploiting members. It is because of money.

Ihmhi · 09-20-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoKill----->

That was a good read Howling Man

Yeah, I can just picture Chuck E. Cheese leading an army of six year olds down Main Street to the National Anthem of the USSR...

GeoKill-----> · 09-20-2007, 01:50 AM

^Now that's scary

uBeR · 09-20-2007, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly Furby

Fun things to do Wal-Mart while the spouse or significant other is taking her sweet time!

1. Set all the alarm clocks to go off at ten minute intervals throughout the day.

2. Make a trail of orange juice on the floor, leading to the restrooms.

3. Greet customers at the front door with "Welcome to Sprawl-Mart" and tell them everything is buy one get one free today.

4. Move "Caution: Wet Floor" signs to carpeted areas.

5. When someone asks if you need help, begin to cry and ask, "Why won't you people just leave me alone?"

6. Take up an entire aisle in Toys by setting up a full scale battlefield with G. I. Joes vs. the X-Men.

7. While handling guns in the hunting department, suddenly ask the clerk if he knows where the anti-depressants are.

8. Switch the men's and women's signs on the doors of the restroom.

9. Dart around suspiciously while humming the theme from "Mission Impossible."

10. Set up a "Valet Parking" sign in front of the store

11. Hide in the clothing racks and when people browse through, say things like "pick me! pick me!!"

12. When an announcement comes over the loudspeaker, assume the fetal position and scream, "No, no! It's those voices again!"

13. If the store has a food court, buy a soft drink; explain that you don't get out much, and ask if they can put a little umbrella in it.

14. Go into the dressing room and yell real loud..."Hey, we're out of toilet paper in here!"

15. Put one pack of M&M's on layaway.

16. Walk up to an employee and tell him in an official tone, "I think we've got a Code 3 in housewares," and see what happens.

17. Get boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they don't realize it.

Looks familiar.

Scuzzy · 09-20-2007, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsChuck

Did you know that wal-mart could give every full time employee a 2.5$ per hour raise and still make money?

Walmart made over 12 billion dollars profit last year. Walmart has over 2 million full time employees. Could give every single full time employee an extra $6,000 dollar check per year and still make money.

Scary.

There's a guy working in a sweatshop in Indonesia that thinks you're insanely rich for making $6 - $10 an hour. Shame on you for not giving him some of your cash.. You could give him $.50 an hour for everything he does and still make a profit, right? Why aren't you doing that?

Scuzzy

zSilver_Fox · 09-20-2007, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuzzy

There's a guy working in a sweatshop in Indonesia that thinks you're insanely rich for making $6 - $10 an hour. Shame on you for not giving him some of your cash.. You could give him $.50 an hour for everything he does and still make a profit, right? Why aren't you doing that?

Scuzzy

+1.5

Innoc · 09-20-2007, 06:01 AM

There's no place better than Walmart for grabbing some kids 12-14 fleece sweats at 10 PM on a sunday because your son needs them for PE on monday.

Watch for falling prices!

Gigiya · 09-21-2007, 07:12 PM

Unloading trucks at Walmart was a god awful job for me, but no one who works in an hourly retail position should actually expect a career, so I can't fault them for their wages.

C-Aim · 09-22-2007, 01:51 AM

*yawn* and yet I don't see anybody bitching about low prices. You also won't see people who can't find employment otherwise but want to work complaining about actually having a job--and guess where they shop to make their dollar go further? You only get one guess and if you get it wrong you get deported.

09-19-2007, 05:42 AM	#1
MyNameIsChuck Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Walmart - A study in numbers. Did you know that wal-mart could give every full time employee a 2.5$ per hour raise and still make money? Walmart made over 12 billion dollars profit last year. Walmart has over 2 million full time employees. Could give every single full time employee an extra $6,000 dollar check per year and still make money. Scary. Last edited by MyNameIsChuck; 09-19-2007 at 05:49 AM.

09-19-2007, 06:01 AM	#2
Ihmhi [AE] 0112 Ihmhi SJB Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newark, NJ, United States Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin' Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin' Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, SJB Straight Jacket Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	They pretty much have a monopoly and force many local American businesses OUT of business by requiring unreasonable cutbacks. They also do not allow their employees to unionize. Remember, at Wal-mart, the stockholders matter! Scary. __________________ Support FF: Anime: The Thread: Reloaded The one and only anime thread on these here forums. Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.

09-19-2007, 06:02 AM	#3
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Don't see how this is scary... __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

09-19-2007, 06:18 AM	#4
uBeR Not ****** Yet D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	A corporation's goal is maximize profit, not minimize it. Do you want to know why your argument is completely bunk? It's because if they paid each of their 2,000,000 full-time employees $6,000 more per year, their profit would be $0. That's something their shareholders would be happy with, I'm sure. And actually, their profits are at 11.3B with 1.9M employees, many of which I assume are only part-time. __________________ OCCUPATION 101. *One would think a simple task would be, well, simple. Maybe not for simpletons.* Last edited by uBeR; 09-19-2007 at 06:25 AM.

09-19-2007, 07:58 PM	#8
Deadly Furby Elder Scroll Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cell Block 17 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	Fun Things to Do at Wal-Mart Fun things to do Wal-Mart while the spouse or significant other is taking her sweet time! 1. Set all the alarm clocks to go off at ten minute intervals throughout the day. 2. Make a trail of orange juice on the floor, leading to the restrooms. 3. Greet customers at the front door with "Welcome to Sprawl-Mart" and tell them everything is buy one get one free today. 4. Move "Caution: Wet Floor" signs to carpeted areas. 5. When someone asks if you need help, begin to cry and ask, "Why won't you people just leave me alone?" 6. Take up an entire aisle in Toys by setting up a full scale battlefield with G. I. Joes vs. the X-Men. 7. While handling guns in the hunting department, suddenly ask the clerk if he knows where the anti-depressants are. 8. Switch the men's and women's signs on the doors of the restroom. 9. Dart around suspiciously while humming the theme from "Mission Impossible." 10. Set up a "Valet Parking" sign in front of the store 11. Hide in the clothing racks and when people browse through, say things like "pick me! pick me!!" 12. When an announcement comes over the loudspeaker, assume the fetal position and scream, "No, no! It's those voices again!" 13. If the store has a food court, buy a soft drink; explain that you don't get out much, and ask if they can put a little umbrella in it. 14. Go into the dressing room and yell real loud..."Hey, we're out of toilet paper in here!" 15. Put one pack of M&M's on layaway. 16. Walk up to an employee and tell him in an official tone, "I think we've got a Code 3 in housewares," and see what happens. 17. Get boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they don't realize it.

09-19-2007, 09:35 AM	#5
HypedGaming Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	The whole idea here is for the company to make the money, if they have 2M or so employees being paid at the rate they are, why raise their income any more then they have to? As long as they are staying within the states minimum wage policy, they are fine.

09-19-2007, 12:08 PM	#6
Teh Hwoling Manz Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stan Mikita's Donuts Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No unions though, that's scary shit. Like, Orwellian scary.

09-19-2007, 07:38 PM	#7
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Walmart is retail, retailers don't pay their employees that much. Walmart is no different. I was at Circuit City and all of us rarely got any raises and were constistantly required to work longer and harder without getting raises. Shortly after I quit they lower their pay cap and asked anyone who was over it to take the new, lower pay or leave. It hit big news a while back. The goal of any company is to maximize profit, and minimize cost. The goal of any employee is to maximize payout and minimize effort. An equilibrium is met. People wouldn't work at Walmart if they thought they were getting a raw deal, they would go someplace else. They offer cheap benefits and money to people willing to stand around for 8 hours a day and essentially do nothing but take crap from ignorant customers. It's not pretty, but it's not evil or malicious either.

09-19-2007, 09:57 PM	#9
Teh Hwoling Manz Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stan Mikita's Donuts Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's true that retailers don't pay much and treat their employees like shit. I used to work at Target and that was one of the shittiest jobs I had. (Except for the time I worked at Chuck E. Cheese, but that's a whole 'nother story.) I happened to luck out and I work at a grocery store (Schnuck's) with a strong union (Local 881) And I'm guaranteed pay raises after working for a certain number of hours. Lots of protection from being wrongfully unemployed as well. Sure, they take a few bucks out of my paycheck but it's my strong belief that it's well worth it. Last edited by Teh Hwoling Manz; 09-19-2007 at 10:49 PM.

09-19-2007, 10:07 PM	#10
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	That was a good read Howling Man __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

09-19-2007, 11:57 PM	#11
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Penn & Teller did something on that. I'm quite sure the Unions would LOVE to get their hands on Wal-Mart, as all the combined dues would equal more money. I agree with the idea behind a union, but not the way they're being used for exploitation. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

09-20-2007, 01:50 AM	#14
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	^Now that's scary __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

09-20-2007, 06:01 AM	#18
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	There's no place better than Walmart for grabbing some kids 12-14 fleece sweats at 10 PM on a sunday because your son needs them for PE on monday. Watch for falling prices! __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

09-21-2007, 07:12 PM	#19
Gigiya Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Unloading trucks at Walmart was a god awful job for me, but no one who works in an hourly retail position should actually expect a career, so I can't fault them for their wages.

09-22-2007, 01:51 AM	#20
C-Aim Better than Never Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NYC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yawn and yet I don't see anybody bitching about low prices. You also won't see people who can't find employment otherwise but want to work complaining about actually having a job--and guess where they shop to make their dollar go further? You only get one guess and if you get it wrong you get deported.

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