ff_4tron: Lots 'o screens and a DL

o_nezumi · 04-26-2006, 07:21 AM

So I made a new map. I kinda sorta finished it sometime last winter but never got around to putting the last little touches on it untill just recently.

It's called ff_4tron, and it's a 4-way CTF map. You can steal an enemy flag and bring it back to your base for 10 points, or steal an enemy flag and bring it to the base of a different enemy for 20 points (the 20 is up for tweaking, obviously. It may wind up being more or less in the end).

In addition, each base has a keycard. The keycard can be used to open the sniper deck windows wide enough to allow a person in or out, and be used to retract the bridge in front of each base. A keycard cannot be used in the base it was picked up in, and respawns immediately when used or when it's carrier dies.

You can DL Here:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4tron/ff_4tron_05.zip <-- For HL2M

Screenshots as follows. Mostly linked so peeps don't have to wait 15 minutes to view this thread.

Red's spawn room:

The main room of red base. This screenshot is a little old. In the final version there's an extra light under the platform sticking out, and the lights are brighter in general.
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05b.jpg

Up the ramps towards Red's flag and their sniper deck:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05c.jpg

Red's cap point, which overlooks the midmap:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05d.jpg

Red's sniper deck (there are two in each base):
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05e.jpg

Red's flag. The window also overlooks the midmap:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05f.jpg

One of two main entrance halls to Red's base. Don't worry, there's clip brushes on the walls so you don't get stuck on the detail. Also, you'll notice the lighting doesn't quite line up in certain spots because the curves are displacements:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05g.jpg

The midmap:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05h.jpg

Also the midmap:

Closeup of Red's base, the flag appears just behind that window at the top there above the cap point. The main entrance is peeking out there below the sniper window:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05j.jpg

The exit from the water tunel in Green's base, on the right, and the elevator up to the main room on the left:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05k.jpg

An overview:

Green's spawn room:
http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05n.jpg

Now, it seems like the flag is a little easy to get to, but this is offset by the facts that A, there will be people fighing eachother to get to your flag and B, if someone does make it out with your flag there will be people trying to kill them and take it for their team.

Extra Special Double Mega Thanks go out to Fisheye for helping me with getting the combine_shield props (The shield emitters in the respawn) to work with team-colored skins.

P.S. Circ: You can list this as 98.5% for now.

o_kam · 04-26-2006, 07:49 AM

Framerate is all over the place, mat_wireframe shows the yard being rendered when inside a lot of the time and it looks like a lot of face splitting where there shouldn't be.

Texturing is ugly and random lookin'. Layout is kinda... plain.
That bridge is cool but pretty much useless.

o_mj · 04-26-2006, 08:05 AM

4 way ctf?
uhh dunno..

o_fresh · 04-26-2006, 08:37 AM

INTERESTING. VERY INTERESTING.

o_nezumi · 04-26-2006, 08:37 AM

Oops, forgot to mention: I haven't done a full vis. I'll need to find a time when I don't need my computer for about 2 days to finish the vis. So the framerate should see a good boost after I do that (and anyway with 4 bases the game has to render twice as much as normal. :/) Assuming that a full vis will make so much of the inside stop rendering from the outside (which is fairly iffy given the time investment I've already put into the map) the framerate should reach acceptable levels.

And most of the texturing is placeholder for FF textures, like the rusty metal that the front of the bases are made out of and the grey concrete everywhere, like in the water tunnel. Also all the GL textures (from Dr. Zaius and Ginger Lord) are placeholder. I'll replace a lot of my own custom team-colored textures with FF textures if there's a good match to reduce the file size.

And I can assure you kam that ther's little to no unnecessary face splitting. At least that I can fix. I've spent hours on optimising exactly that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kam

Texturing is ... random lookin'

How do you mean?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kam

Layout is kinda... plain.

How do you mean?

o_don · 04-26-2006, 08:43 AM

Haha. Not very kind first comments. I think it looks pretty nice. Good effort. Should be fun to play! (but only when server is full) Could you auto shut off entrances to a team base that no one has joined? Like if no one is on the green team, a metal barrier slides down over all the entrances. It would then be like a 3way ctf map. Something might have to be done about the team squashed in the middle but that might never be a problem. (How about raising the player limit for the squished team: they would have the ability to defend both side entrances that way)

o_geokill-----> · 04-26-2006, 09:05 AM

really like the theme of this map and also how you added lots of team coloring.

Now know why you wanted team color of all the combie props

omega · 04-26-2006, 09:34 AM

take the pics with antialiasing and anisotropic filtering cranked up, doesn't really do justice to the current pics ;/

o_kam · 04-26-2006, 09:48 AM

Full vis should not take 2 days D:
Using hint brushes btw?

I think the randomness is because there's just too many rusty textures that just make it look too busy and like they don't really go together well or something.

Layout just doesn't look like there's anything interesting to do offence-wise.
conc to balc, dm/bhop/conc to flag, cap said flag...

Nuk3m · 07-26-2008, 07:02 PM

finish this map

Nezumi · 07-27-2008, 09:14 AM

Maybe.

Framerates blew chunks though. I'd take out the whole keycard thing I had planned and make the capture point be inside the bases, probably.

Some icky brushwork going on too...

MatiZ · 10-11-2008, 09:30 PM

Can someone finish this map and optimize it? I got FPS problems...

**squeek.** · 10-11-2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatiZ

Can someone finish this map and optimize it? I got FPS problems...

Read the post above yours.

04-26-2006, 07:21 AM	#1
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ff_4tron: Lots 'o screens and a DL So I made a new map. I kinda sorta finished it sometime last winter but never got around to putting the last little touches on it untill just recently. It's called ff_4tron, and it's a 4-way CTF map. You can steal an enemy flag and bring it back to your base for 10 points, or steal an enemy flag and bring it to the base of a different enemy for 20 points (the 20 is up for tweaking, obviously. It may wind up being more or less in the end). In addition, each base has a keycard. The keycard can be used to open the sniper deck windows wide enough to allow a person in or out, and be used to retract the bridge in front of each base. A keycard cannot be used in the base it was picked up in, and respawns immediately when used or when it's carrier dies. You can DL Here: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4tron/ff_4tron_05.zip <-- For HL2M Screenshots as follows. Mostly linked so peeps don't have to wait 15 minutes to view this thread. Red's spawn room: The main room of red base. This screenshot is a little old. In the final version there's an extra light under the platform sticking out, and the lights are brighter in general. http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05b.jpg Up the ramps towards Red's flag and their sniper deck: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05c.jpg Red's cap point, which overlooks the midmap: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05d.jpg Red's sniper deck (there are two in each base): http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05e.jpg Red's flag. The window also overlooks the midmap: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05f.jpg One of two main entrance halls to Red's base. Don't worry, there's clip brushes on the walls so you don't get stuck on the detail. Also, you'll notice the lighting doesn't quite line up in certain spots because the curves are displacements: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05g.jpg The midmap: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05h.jpg Also the midmap: Closeup of Red's base, the flag appears just behind that window at the top there above the cap point. The main entrance is peeking out there below the sniper window: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05j.jpg The exit from the water tunel in Green's base, on the right, and the elevator up to the main room on the left: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05k.jpg An overview: Green's spawn room: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ff_4t..._4tron_05n.jpg Now, it seems like the flag is a little easy to get to, but this is offset by the facts that A, there will be people fighing eachother to get to your flag and B, if someone does make it out with your flag there will be people trying to kill them and take it for their team. Extra Special Double Mega Thanks go out to Fisheye for helping me with getting the combine_shield props (The shield emitters in the respawn) to work with team-colored skins. P.S. Circ: You can list this as 98.5% for now.

07-27-2008, 09:14 AM	#11
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Maybe. Framerates blew chunks though. I'd take out the whole keycard thing I had planned and make the capture point be inside the bases, probably. Some icky brushwork going on too... __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

04-26-2006, 07:49 AM	#2
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Framerate is all over the place, mat_wireframe shows the yard being rendered when inside a lot of the time and it looks like a lot of face splitting where there shouldn't be. Texturing is ugly and random lookin'. Layout is kinda... plain. That bridge is cool but pretty much useless.

04-26-2006, 08:05 AM	#3
o_mj Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	4 way ctf? uhh dunno..

04-26-2006, 08:37 AM	#4
o_fresh Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brum. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	INTERESTING. VERY INTERESTING.

04-26-2006, 08:43 AM	#6
o_don Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Great Britain Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Haha. Not very kind first comments. I think it looks pretty nice. Good effort. Should be fun to play! (but only when server is full) Could you auto shut off entrances to a team base that no one has joined? Like if no one is on the green team, a metal barrier slides down over all the entrances. It would then be like a 3way ctf map. Something might have to be done about the team squashed in the middle but that might never be a problem. (How about raising the player limit for the squished team: they would have the ability to defend both side entrances that way)

04-26-2006, 09:05 AM	#7
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	really like the theme of this map and also how you added lots of team coloring. Now know why you wanted team color of all the combie props

04-26-2006, 09:34 AM	#8
omega Retired FF Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	take the pics with antialiasing and anisotropic filtering cranked up, doesn't really do justice to the current pics ;/

04-26-2006, 09:48 AM	#9
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Full vis should not take 2 days D: Using hint brushes btw? I think the randomness is because there's just too many rusty textures that just make it look too busy and like they don't really go together well or something. Layout just doesn't look like there's anything interesting to do offence-wise. conc to balc, dm/bhop/conc to flag, cap said flag...

07-26-2008, 07:02 PM	#10
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	finish this map

10-11-2008, 09:30 PM	#12
MatiZ FFcrab Join Date: May 2008 Location: Poland Class/Position: Spectator Gametype: Fragfest (Sometimes without "r".) Affiliations: LCD Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	Can someone finish this map and optimize it? I got FPS problems...

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