Which class has the greatest advantage?

tfcOG · 09-17-2007, 02:44 AM

Personally, I think this game is as balanced as TFC was if not more. To prove myself right, I'd like to see everyone's opinion on which class they feel has the biggest advantage.

teatime · 09-17-2007, 02:47 AM

spies.

punk · 09-17-2007, 02:51 AM

HW, just way too powerful. Mows anything down with ease. A little to quick I think too (only played it a couple times, so don't remember the move speed too much). Walking + shooting is kind of crazy too, I think he should have to sit still to shoot the gattling gun (or whatever it may be called).

09-17-2007, 02:51 AM

If any of the classes are over powered it'd be the HWGuy, though I've found that Napalm + IC + Flamethrower can really take care of him along with anyone else around em.

Something to add: While the HWG is firing, his turn doesn't seem to be effected like in TFC (I might be wrong). It was made apparent that FF is not TFC but this little handicap could probably help tone him down.

C-Aim · 09-17-2007, 02:54 AM

I also said HW because I think he does a bit too much damage long range (I noticed this on the giving end not the receiving though). Of course a lot of the new players haven't quite figured out how to concjump past or toss a conc in my face yet so I might be singing a different tune in a month or so.

Mrbbad · 09-17-2007, 03:00 AM

I think for the first time -- everything is well balanced.

Each has clear advantages and disadvantages...So none!

NoComply · 09-17-2007, 04:16 AM

We probably won't know since the people who will become the best at ff will figure out little tricks that make the classes even better. FF has it's perks and in a month or two you might change your mind about what class is the best.

Tyrus · 09-17-2007, 04:26 AM

HW is way over powered as it stands. He moves way to fast for a fat ass and doesn't even look like a fat ass anymore.

tfcOG · 09-17-2007, 06:58 AM

If they made the HW Guy slower, would anyone still play that class? As it is, every class seems to be faster, it would end up seeming unbearably slow to play as a fatty. I think they should maybe make the spray on the minigun less accurate or lower the rate of fire.

Led · 09-17-2007, 07:13 AM

Just town down the amount of damage the AC gives at long range (and make the damn model FATTER, he looks like a soldier or something now)

Also the scout needs to be a little faster (ye thats right, i said faster!)

**mervaka** · 09-17-2007, 10:04 AM

HW deals too much damage too quickly at too great a distance.

09-17-2007, 01:17 PM

I voted for Spy.

I can pump him full of shells from a few feet away and he still gets a knife in and lives. I suspect we could deal with a little less armor on Spies.

DarkeN_HellspawN · 09-17-2007, 01:29 PM

but doesnt the HW guy carrying around the biggest f%$#@#$ gun there is in the game. it is a damn gattling gun and he is slow as hell so just like TFC he deals the most damage fast. That is why allot of tfc servers banned the class but a solly or a sniper can take his fat ass out real quick without any problems. Thats why we all called the fattys because we hated those SOB's but when we killed them we leaped for joy as we were just given the keys to a new Lamborgini. I say I love you fattys but, I love to hate you. You and your revolving barrle spraying the entire map with bullets. I talking to you the obese hunchback of Nrotre Dame. I am coming for you and when I am done I will be frying myself up some fatty burgers on my grill.

dh

PorkChopVII · 09-17-2007, 01:33 PM

i voted soldier. Seems i cant match to the soldier as any other class but the soldier. I can handle going up against any other class with a demoman but soldier. seems like i have to 7 direct hits from my pipes

Agent Buckshot Moose · 09-17-2007, 02:02 PM

The only thing the HW needs right now is to do less damage at range. As it stands right now he's like a sniper with a machine gun. Heh.

DarkeN_HellspawN · 09-17-2007, 02:06 PM

but no matter what he is spraying large caliber bullets everywhere. I am guessing it would hurt real bad in real life. I have tested that the rocket jump would work in real life with little or no damage to your physical body.

dh

Norris · 09-17-2007, 02:07 PM

Heavys AC is a way to accurate over a long distance. needs to be balanced.

aflaedge · 09-17-2007, 04:17 PM

The HW is faster than in TFC. I dunno if this is a bad thing but it makes him more of a threat than before. The over heat function can easily be overcome by tapping and releasing at the right rate to maintain continuous fire. That being said his increased speed is not being checked by his rate of fire. In addition, he seems a bit thin to be packing so much firepower. Give that boy a steak! Maybe then he'll slow down and behave like a proper HWGUY

Fatty

09-17-2007, 04:29 PM

I love my HWguy

Though he could be slowed down a wee bit, and the spread a bit greater over a distance, as most people have said.Maybe even lower the overheat timer by a second to make it harder to maintain. Still a fun class though.

Stephen · 09-17-2007, 06:07 PM

As someone who plays engineer a lot, spies are the bane of my existence

Every time i go to resupply my noob teammates let them in to sabotage my toys.

View Poll Results: Which class do you think is too powerful?
Scout	2	1.96%
Sniper	3	2.94%
Soldier	12	11.76%
Demoman	2	1.96%
Medic	5	4.90%
HWGuy	53	51.96%
Pyro	5	4.90%
Spy	19	18.63%
Engineer	1	0.98%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

09-17-2007, 02:44 AM	#1
tfcOG Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Which class has the greatest advantage? Personally, I think this game is as balanced as TFC was if not more. To prove myself right, I'd like to see everyone's opinion on which class they feel has the biggest advantage. Last edited by tfcOG; 09-17-2007 at 02:55 AM.

09-17-2007, 10:04 AM	#11
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	HW deals too much damage too quickly at too great a distance. __________________ Support FF:

09-17-2007, 01:29 PM	#13
DarkeN_HellspawN FORUM ADM!N Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Sun Class/Position: O/D D/O - For life or death Gametype: 2fort Spectating Llama GD Ex. TALOS Sniper Affiliations: FF God, The Yellow Brotherhood Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	Im sorry.......... but doesnt the HW guy carrying around the biggest f%$#@#$ gun there is in the game. it is a damn gattling gun and he is slow as hell so just like TFC he deals the most damage fast. That is why allot of tfc servers banned the class but a solly or a sniper can take his fat ass out real quick without any problems. Thats why we all called the fattys because we hated those SOB's but when we killed them we leaped for joy as we were just given the keys to a new Lamborgini. I say I love you fattys but, I love to hate you. You and your revolving barrle spraying the entire map with bullets. I talking to you the obese hunchback of Nrotre Dame. I am coming for you and when I am done I will be frying myself up some fatty burgers on my grill. dh __________________ If you come across a great Yellow entity offering a yellow pill, take it. Its sunshine will grow in you stomach like a bowl of Sea Monkeys - The Great Yellow Book Page 8765 Ch. 194 -Section 3

09-17-2007, 02:06 PM	#16
DarkeN_HellspawN FORUM ADM!N Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Sun Class/Position: O/D D/O - For life or death Gametype: 2fort Spectating Llama GD Ex. TALOS Sniper Affiliations: FF God, The Yellow Brotherhood Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	Maybe the accuracy could drop at range.......... but no matter what he is spraying large caliber bullets everywhere. I am guessing it would hurt real bad in real life. I have tested that the rocket jump would work in real life with little or no damage to your physical body. dh __________________ If you come across a great Yellow entity offering a yellow pill, take it. Its sunshine will grow in you stomach like a bowl of Sea Monkeys - The Great Yellow Book Page 8765 Ch. 194 -Section 3

09-17-2007, 02:47 AM	#2
teatime Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	spies.

09-17-2007, 02:51 AM	#3
punk Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	HW, just way too powerful. Mows anything down with ease. A little to quick I think too (only played it a couple times, so don't remember the move speed too much). Walking + shooting is kind of crazy too, I think he should have to sit still to shoot the gattling gun (or whatever it may be called).

09-17-2007, 02:51 AM	#4
MrBlip Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	If any of the classes are over powered it'd be the HWGuy, though I've found that Napalm + IC + Flamethrower can really take care of him along with anyone else around em. Something to add: While the HWG is firing, his turn doesn't seem to be effected like in TFC (I might be wrong). It was made apparent that FF is not TFC but this little handicap could probably help tone him down.

09-17-2007, 02:54 AM	#5
C-Aim Better than Never Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NYC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I also said HW because I think he does a bit too much damage long range (I noticed this on the giving end not the receiving though). Of course a lot of the new players haven't quite figured out how to concjump past or toss a conc in my face yet so I might be singing a different tune in a month or so.

09-17-2007, 03:00 AM	#6
Mrbbad tf2.org Gnome Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think for the first time -- everything is well balanced. Each has clear advantages and disadvantages...So none!

09-17-2007, 04:16 AM	#7
NoComply Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	We probably won't know since the people who will become the best at ff will figure out little tricks that make the classes even better. FF has it's perks and in a month or two you might change your mind about what class is the best.

09-17-2007, 04:26 AM	#8
Tyrus Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	HW is way over powered as it stands. He moves way to fast for a fat ass and doesn't even look like a fat ass anymore.

09-17-2007, 06:58 AM	#9
tfcOG Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If they made the HW Guy slower, would anyone still play that class? As it is, every class seems to be faster, it would end up seeming unbearably slow to play as a fatty. I think they should maybe make the spray on the minigun less accurate or lower the rate of fire.

09-17-2007, 07:13 AM	#10
Led Valhalla Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Just town down the amount of damage the AC gives at long range (and make the damn model FATTER, he looks like a soldier or something now) Also the scout needs to be a little faster (ye thats right, i said faster!)

09-17-2007, 01:17 PM	#12
Hot Metal Slugs Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I voted for Spy. I can pump him full of shells from a few feet away and he still gets a knife in and lives. I suspect we could deal with a little less armor on Spies.

09-17-2007, 01:33 PM	#14
PorkChopVII The "other" white meat.... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i voted soldier. Seems i cant match to the soldier as any other class but the soldier. I can handle going up against any other class with a demoman but soldier. seems like i have to 7 direct hits from my pipes

09-17-2007, 02:02 PM	#15
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	The only thing the HW needs right now is to do less damage at range. As it stands right now he's like a sniper with a machine gun. Heh.

09-17-2007, 02:07 PM	#17
Norris The Good German Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Heavys AC is a way to accurate over a long distance. needs to be balanced.

09-17-2007, 04:17 PM	#18
aflaedge Resident QWTF God Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The HW is faster than in TFC. I dunno if this is a bad thing but it makes him more of a threat than before. The over heat function can easily be overcome by tapping and releasing at the right rate to maintain continuous fire. That being said his increased speed is not being checked by his rate of fire. In addition, he seems a bit thin to be packing so much firepower. Give that boy a steak! Maybe then he'll slow down and behave like a proper HWGUY Fatty

09-17-2007, 04:29 PM	#19
sigwigs Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I love my HWguy Though he could be slowed down a wee bit, and the spread a bit greater over a distance, as most people have said.Maybe even lower the overheat timer by a second to make it harder to maintain. Still a fun class though.

09-17-2007, 06:07 PM	#20
Stephen Sniper hater. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	As someone who plays engineer a lot, spies are the bane of my existence Every time i go to resupply my noob teammates let them in to sabotage my toys.

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