European ladder, interest?

thiz · 05-27-2008, 01:47 AM

I'm hoping to get some competition going in europe again, it's got a bit stale recently. No one is doing much about it.

How well would a 4v4, 15 minutes as offence, 15 minutes as defence per map game style be accepted?

I would prefer 8v8 but it's probably not viable just now, until we get more players. So is there enough interest?

I'm sure we can rely on the regulars from =AS=, [HoL] and [-], as well as maybe bringing a few in from #tf.pickup players and former / half assed guys like xeno and USRF. I've asked a guy who used to run a TFC ladder for help, anyone who knows about this kind would be appreciated.

Dr.Satan · 05-27-2008, 02:17 AM

UGC is fully prepared AND willing to start up a euro league...just need to playerbase to get it running...

thiz · 05-27-2008, 02:39 AM

Yeah it's appreciated Dr. Satan. I might be calling on you guys for help, do you have formulae for this kind of thing? I'm hoping to emulate Wireplay TFC ladder if anyone remember that, I've asked SteveP who used to run that for help. It's got to the stage where we can't realistically have a league anymore, we just don't have enough. A ladder would allow clans to join / leave etc. and should be more suited I think, at least help build a playerbase for league to start.

pF · 05-27-2008, 06:37 AM

I agree, a ladder format is better suited to the fairly quiet .eu clan scene..

I'm not sure what's going on with DoP, but any way i'd be glad to participate in a match or two, either as merc or maybe as part of a "player pool clan". Would be great to get something moving.

thiz · 05-27-2008, 02:27 PM

Turns out it wasn't SteveP but Edge that used to run it, so that's not good

I had a look at Case's ladder though, you can set up a ladder etc. but it's a lot more complicated than we need.

BlisTer · 05-27-2008, 05:16 PM

We've still got 6 active FFers in [-], so yeah we're up for it. Even though 3 (maybe 4) clans is very little, we might turn those sunday night pickups into a "king of the ladder" kind of thing, for laughs

DISASSEMBLER · 05-27-2008, 05:43 PM

UGC offers both, ladder or season formats. It is the amount of clans is the problem. But I can see a 4 or 5 vs being easier for teams to get together, then 8vs.
Check out our site http://www.ugcleague.com We are running TFC, FF & TF2 leagues. Some are ladder, some are season formats.
We have an FF Europe section already set for seasons, but can be changed and can modify the rules from 8vs to 4vs.

thiz · 05-27-2008, 06:03 PM

Well a 4v4 ladder sounds good to me.

If you can get another two players to sign up blister you can have 2 teams [-]a and [-]b etc.

myersjr · 05-27-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thiz

Well a 4v4 ladder sounds good to me.

If you can get another two players to sign up blister you can have 2 teams [-]a and [-]b etc.

Thiz, does it have to be euro players?? I would be willing to step in and play a few games if it helps to accomplish the goal..granted, im not that great a player, but i will help out new folks if i can. Hope that counts for something..another thing to account for is time difference..usually the best time for gaming for me, is Sunday afternoon or evening. I think if it gets too late, most of the euro guys will have gone to bed..remember the match i scheduled with you guys?? Even though no one showed up, it was a good start time..something like 1pm our time, 9pm your time..I couldnt really get there much sooner than that..church and all..

pF · 05-28-2008, 11:36 PM

I don't see why it would need to be restricted to EU players.. i think there were people from Europe playing in UGC no?

DISASSEMBLER · 05-28-2008, 11:40 PM

There wouldn't be any restriction to EU players. Just the NA players would have to deal with EU times. Like the EU players that deal with the NA league times.

thiz · 06-01-2008, 06:35 PM

Yeah I'd be happy for americans to play in it aslong as they didn't insist on playing at bad times for europeans. Clans can sort between them the best time though.

Dr.Satan · 06-01-2008, 07:52 PM

I think if we get an EU league going...then it should be at prime time for EU clans and if NA players and / or clans wished to play they should have to play at the same time. Just makes more since IMO since we don't really change the time for any EU clans to play in the NA leagues.

zE · 06-02-2008, 12:05 AM

Ye that pickup format would be ideal, 4 vs 4 15 min off/15 min def, ladder style. Would be perfect cuse 4 its easy to get, and maybe we could enter with 2 teams lolz AS a and AS b : )

reaper18 · 06-02-2008, 01:50 PM

lol, im sure US clans could compete as well.
Seeing as the pings arent that bad for the most part.

thiz · 06-02-2008, 03:03 PM

Well is it possible for UGC to set this up? I don't see a ladder on your site. looking on the web it seems most companies charge for ladder websites, nothing that looks too great either.

Dr.Satan · 06-03-2008, 01:42 AM

there is a UGC EU ladder...can't remember what format it is for, but that can always be changed:

http://www.ugcleague.com//home_ffeu.cfm

zE · 06-03-2008, 09:45 PM

the format was 7vs7 or 8vs8 i think, put it in 4 v 4 :P

thiz · 06-07-2008, 01:50 PM

Yeah if you could scrap whats been done before and start again with a 4v4 format and new signups allowed all the time.

Do you have an automated point system / calculator thing on this? i.e. clans just play and put in the scores?

Bakez · 06-10-2008, 11:19 PM

Your work for FF is appreciated thiz.

05-27-2008, 01:47 AM	#1
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	European ladder, interest? I'm hoping to get some competition going in europe again, it's got a bit stale recently. No one is doing much about it. How well would a 4v4, 15 minutes as offence, 15 minutes as defence per map game style be accepted? I would prefer 8v8 but it's probably not viable just now, until we get more players. So is there enough interest? I'm sure we can rely on the regulars from =AS=, [HoL] and [-], as well as maybe bringing a few in from #tf.pickup players and former / half assed guys like xeno and USRF. I've asked a guy who used to run a TFC ladder for help, anyone who knows about this kind would be appreciated.

05-27-2008, 02:17 AM	#2
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	UGC is fully prepared AND willing to start up a euro league...just need to playerbase to get it running... __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

05-27-2008, 06:37 AM	#4
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	I agree, a ladder format is better suited to the fairly quiet .eu clan scene.. I'm not sure what's going on with DoP, but any way i'd be glad to participate in a match or two, either as merc or maybe as part of a "player pool clan". Would be great to get something moving. __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

05-27-2008, 05:16 PM	#6
BlisTer Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	We've still got 6 active FFers in [-], so yeah we're up for it. Even though 3 (maybe 4) clans is very little, we might turn those sunday night pickups into a "king of the ladder" kind of thing, for laughs __________________ Support FF: untils you cry for the mercy like little shaven squirrel in my eating pot. - deathstriker666

05-28-2008, 11:36 PM	#10
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	I don't see why it would need to be restricted to EU players.. i think there were people from Europe playing in UGC no? __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

05-27-2008, 02:39 AM	#3
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Yeah it's appreciated Dr. Satan. I might be calling on you guys for help, do you have formulae for this kind of thing? I'm hoping to emulate Wireplay TFC ladder if anyone remember that, I've asked SteveP who used to run that for help. It's got to the stage where we can't realistically have a league anymore, we just don't have enough. A ladder would allow clans to join / leave etc. and should be more suited I think, at least help build a playerbase for league to start.

05-27-2008, 02:27 PM	#5
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Turns out it wasn't SteveP but Edge that used to run it, so that's not good I had a look at Case's ladder though, you can set up a ladder etc. but it's a lot more complicated than we need.

05-27-2008, 05:43 PM	#7
DISASSEMBLER Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	UGC offers both, ladder or season formats. It is the amount of clans is the problem. But I can see a 4 or 5 vs being easier for teams to get together, then 8vs. Check out our site http://www.ugcleague.com We are running TFC, FF & TF2 leagues. Some are ladder, some are season formats. We have an FF Europe section already set for seasons, but can be changed and can modify the rules from 8vs to 4vs.

05-27-2008, 06:03 PM	#8
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Well a 4v4 ladder sounds good to me. If you can get another two players to sign up blister you can have 2 teams [-]a and [-]b etc.

05-28-2008, 11:40 PM	#11
DISASSEMBLER Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	There wouldn't be any restriction to EU players. Just the NA players would have to deal with EU times. Like the EU players that deal with the NA league times.

06-01-2008, 06:35 PM	#12
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Yeah I'd be happy for americans to play in it aslong as they didn't insist on playing at bad times for europeans. Clans can sort between them the best time though.

06-01-2008, 07:52 PM	#13
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	I think if we get an EU league going...then it should be at prime time for EU clans and if NA players and / or clans wished to play they should have to play at the same time. Just makes more since IMO since we don't really change the time for any EU clans to play in the NA leagues. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

06-02-2008, 12:05 AM	#14
zE Pew pew ze beams Join Date: Jan 2008 Gametype: Gathers Affiliations: pew pew Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	Ye that pickup format would be ideal, 4 vs 4 15 min off/15 min def, ladder style. Would be perfect cuse 4 its easy to get, and maybe we could enter with 2 teams lolz AS a and AS b : )

06-02-2008, 01:50 PM	#15
reaper18 sKeeD D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Scout, Demo, Solly Gametype: Any Posts Rated Helpful 21 Times	lol, im sure US clans could compete as well. Seeing as the pings arent that bad for the most part.

06-02-2008, 03:03 PM	#16
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Well is it possible for UGC to set this up? I don't see a ladder on your site. looking on the web it seems most companies charge for ladder websites, nothing that looks too great either.

06-03-2008, 01:42 AM	#17
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	there is a UGC EU ladder...can't remember what format it is for, but that can always be changed: http://www.ugcleague.com//home_ffeu.cfm __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

06-03-2008, 09:45 PM	#18
zE Pew pew ze beams Join Date: Jan 2008 Gametype: Gathers Affiliations: pew pew Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	the format was 7vs7 or 8vs8 i think, put it in 4 v 4 :P

06-07-2008, 01:50 PM	#19
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Yeah if you could scrap whats been done before and start again with a 4v4 format and new signups allowed all the time. Do you have an automated point system / calculator thing on this? i.e. clans just play and put in the scores?

06-10-2008, 11:19 PM	#20
Bakez Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Your work for FF is appreciated thiz.

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