Ubuntu 9.04 goes gold today!

[Mulchman MM]

So, I'm back on Ubuntu. The Window stint lasted about 7 days or so... until Vista wanted to complain about some side-by-side configuration bullshit for every 32 bit program I tried to run. Oh well, I'm on 9.04 now and it does seem better wrt to PulseAudio. I also changed sound cards from Intel HDA to a more linux friendly C-Media something or other (as Intel HDA was a source of a lot of troubles for tons of people back on 8.10 with earlier versions of Alsa & PulseAudio).

Anyway - anyone know how to set up "Phonon" to use PulseAudio? I want to use the latest Amarok which uses some backend called "Phonon" but haven't figured out how to change any settings in "Phonon" - all guides are Kubuntu specific so none of the menus & options people say to use match up at all. I found an Amarok 1.4 PPA and am currently using Amarok 1.4 but it's locked up 3 times now while listening to my morning radio stream... and it's really annoying to have to jump out of fullscreen VMware Workstation & fire up a terminal to kill Amarok then restart Amarok and reconnect to the stream. I usually have windows spanning both screens in the fullscreen Workstation window so I have to readjust everything once I jump back in and it's extremely annoying to do this.

This is the 2nd time I've had 64 bit Windows die on me, though - the first was with XP and now with Vista. I can't believe I'm the only one who has strange problems with 64 bit Windows and I don't feel like I use the operating system in some strange way to warrant the mass disasters I've had with both.

[Phatman]

I hear ya on the x64 of Windows Mulch. It seems I can never get Vista to play nice even when I've just installed basic stuff on it. Ubuntu seems to be the only thing I can get to stay stable without going off on it. Even Fedora 10 64bit has it's issues. I just installed Windows 7 x64 and so far it's okay. The dell quick sets don't show the way they do in Vista, but that's fine with me. So far so good. I figure since there's a new Windows coming, may as well give it a shot and see how things roll on it. *shrug*

[Agent Buckshot Moose]

Originally Posted by Mulchman MM

Anyway - anyone know how to set up "Phonon" to use PulseAudio? I want to use the latest Amarok which uses some backend called "Phonon" but haven't figured out how to change any settings in "Phonon" - all guides are Kubuntu specific so none of the menus & options people say to use match up at all. I found an Amarok 1.4 PPA and am currently using Amarok 1.4 but it's locked up 3 times now while listening to my morning radio stream... and it's really annoying to have to jump out of fullscreen VMware Workstation & fire up a terminal to kill Amarok then restart Amarok and reconnect to the stream. I usually have windows spanning both screens in the fullscreen Workstation window so I have to readjust everything once I jump back in and it's extremely annoying to do this.

It looks like they don't play well together. Can't you use Rhythmbox, Totem, or xmms?

[mervaka]

anything that uses GST will work seamlessly with pulse, as it has a pulsesink module.

[Mulchman MM]

Originally Posted by Agent Buckshot Moose

It looks like they don't play well together. Can't you use Rhythmbox, Totem, or xmms?

I have a weird combination of things I want the 'audio player of choice' to be able to do.

1) play rtsp (Real Audio) streams - I listen to a Jim Rome stream every week day from 9 AM to noon
2) be able to make a playlist of rtsp streams (like when I listen to an archive version of Jim Rome show - there are about 10 streams and each have an actual end and they need to be in a logical order)
3) play mp3's
4) route through PulseAudio

• RhythmBox can do all but 2. It's okay to use for the live stream as it's a turn on and forget type of thing but for the archive shows it doesn't work as the streams can't be sorted inside the radio playlist thing in RhythmBox (at least I haven't found a way to do this)
• Amarok 1.4 can do all 4 but has been locking up on me lately
• I get no sound out of Totem (?)
• Haven't tried Xmms in a long long time

At the moment I'm using a combination of MPlayer (technically Gnome MPlayer) & Amarok. MPlayer's been rock solid playing the stream during the morning radio show and then I use Amarok once the show is over to play any mp3's.

I also have another layer in here in that I work inside a virtual machine all day and typically I have it fullscreen'd and taking over both monitors (and jumping out of this setup to manage playback functionality or restart stuff is painful**). So, I wrote a Python UDP server (uses DCOP to talk to Amarok) that runs on the host Ubuntu system then inside the virtual machine I have a UDP remote control app I wrote that sends commands to the Python UDP server (which then relays the commands via DCOP to Amarok). Due to the prior work on the server & client I'm really keen on keeping Amarok around so I don't have to write some other kind of remote control wrapper for another player. (And I'm also keen on keeping Amarok 1.4 since the DCOP interface [I think] has changed for Amarok 2.)

** - Yes, I could always VNC into the host OS from the virtual machine (or SSH in) and kill/restart stuff but don't want to.

[Sh4x]

Reading all this shit, it sounds like you killed a fly with a spiked bat, congrats!

[Mulchman MM]

Harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[mervaka]

http://mervaka.co.uk/~mervaka/rtsp_totem.png

totem ticks all your boxes just fine for me.. are you using Luke Yelavich's PPA yet?

[Mulchman MM]

No, can you post a reason as to why I should be? My PulseAudio server & libs are at 0.9.14.

And actually, I misspoke about Totem - it works just fine on this [Ubuntu 9.04] box. It's another [Ubuntu 8.04] box where RhythmBox works but Totem does not but I don't play audio on that box really so it doesn't matter.