Fortress Forever

Go Back   Fortress Forever > Off Topic > Chat

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-14-2007, 06:34 AM   #1
zSilver_Fox
IRL Combat Medic
 
zSilver_Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ethanol Land
Class/Position: D Medic
Gametype: Conca Jumping
Affiliations: ^iv
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Read a book!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w

To racist morons like Uber, don't bother watching it, given that you think that EVERYONE IS PERFECTLY EQUAL AND THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS RACIAL TRENDS.

But otherwise, first good messaged hip-hop song I've heard in a long while.
__________________
I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam...

First infraction! Flaming!
zSilver_Fox is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 10:15 AM   #2
Loader
>_<
 
Loader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Portsmouth, England, UK
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Technically, everyone is equal, or has the chance to be.
Loader is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 10:32 AM   #3
Zydell
Ex-king
D&A Member
 
Zydell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Netherlands
Affiliations: Knights of the Round
Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times
Send a message via MSN to Zydell Send a message via Skype™ to Zydell
I think everyone is equivalent, not equal. If we were all equal than we wouldn't have a reason to become a racist or bully people. What racists may not accept is that (for example Belgium people) are equal in terms of ‘value’ in regards to for example Dutch people. Doesn't mean they're equal though.. hell those crazy Belgs can't even decide if they want to be french-, or dutch-speaking .
Zydell is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 05:59 PM   #4
Ihmhi
[AE] 0112 Ihmhi *SJB
Wiki Team
Fortress Forever Staff
 
Ihmhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Newark, NJ, United States
Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin'
Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin'
Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, *SJB Straight Jacket Brigade
Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times
Send a message via AIM to Ihmhi Send a message via MSN to Ihmhi Send a message via Yahoo to Ihmhi
IT'S CALLED SPEED STICK
IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE
IT'S CALLED SPEED STICK
IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE

Eh heh heh heh...
__________________
Support FF:
Anime: The Thread: Reloaded
The one and only anime thread on these here forums.

Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.
Ihmhi is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 06:33 PM   #5
tu!
 
tu!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox
But otherwise, first good messaged hip-hop song I've heard in a long while.
wtf are you listening too...the radio or something?

the classics will never be seen/heard on the mainstream media.
tu! is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 06:37 PM   #6
Suite307
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
tu! listens to shit, it's common knowledge.

Morons aside. This song is pretty hilarious.
Suite307 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 06:45 PM   #7
tu!
 
tu!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suite307
tu! listens to shit, it's common knowledge.

Morons aside. This song is pretty hilarious.
if by funny u mean boring. so true.
tu! is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 08:34 PM   #8
zSilver_Fox
IRL Combat Medic
 
zSilver_Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ethanol Land
Class/Position: D Medic
Gametype: Conca Jumping
Affiliations: ^iv
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by tu!
wtf are you listening too...the radio or something?

the classics will never be seen/heard on the mainstream media.
I'm aware of the classics, and I have much respect for real, true to the tradition hip-hop. However, this song is the best to ever gone mainstream.
__________________
I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam...

First infraction! Flaming!
zSilver_Fox is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 10:58 PM   #9
squeek.
Stuff Do-er
Lua Team
Wiki Team
Fortress Forever Staff
 
squeek.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern California
Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter
Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait)
Affiliations: Mustache Brigade
Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times
Send a message via AIM to squeek.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox
To racist morons like Uber, don't bother watching it, given that you think that EVERYONE IS PERFECTLY EQUAL AND THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS RACIAL TRENDS.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dictionary
rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm] –noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
squeek. is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 11:04 PM   #10
uBeR
Not ****** Yet
D&A Member
 
uBeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Minnesota
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Huh? I'm racist because I understand that race is a social construct? But go ahead, keep believing people of different ethnicities shouldn't have sex, like NuK3m. You'll just be another dumb fuck that can be ignored (as if you aren't already).
__________________
OCCUPATION 101.

One would think a simple task would be, well, simple. Maybe not for simpletons.
uBeR is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-14-2007, 11:06 PM   #11
squeek.
Stuff Do-er
Lua Team
Wiki Team
Fortress Forever Staff
 
squeek.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern California
Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter
Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait)
Affiliations: Mustache Brigade
Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times
Send a message via AIM to squeek.
Quote:
Originally Posted by uBeR
Huh? I'm racist because I understand that race is a social construct? But go ahead, keep believing people of different ethnicities shouldn't have sex, like NuK3m. You'll just be another dumb fuck that can be ignored (as if you aren't already).
He obviously doesn't understand the term 'racist.' Hopefully my last post straightened him out.
squeek. is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 12:02 AM   #12
zSilver_Fox
IRL Combat Medic
 
zSilver_Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ethanol Land
Class/Position: D Medic
Gametype: Conca Jumping
Affiliations: ^iv
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Racism is the belief that your race is superior, or the repression of another because of race. However, it's just as ignorant to assume that there's no such thing as cultural differences that are affected by race.

Then again Uber, you also believe that we're the sole reason why the WORLD IS GOING TO FUCKING END, so I'm not surprised. Live real life for once, not a sheltered load of spoonfed bullshit.

I know several black people who are very well off and respectable. However, I do believe that race has an affect on culture and a person's upbringing based on todays world. If a white woman wants to have sex with a black man, go ahead. If it's vice versa, go ahead. I don't care what others do in bed. I've been through enough shit to know that race is a factor in some parts of a person's life, whether due to society or genetic reasons.

I believe that everyone is equal in terms of deserved rights. However, I do believe that people vary, and race can be a major factor.

Now excuse me, I peed my pants at the thought of getting in a fight with an internet tough-guy.
__________________
I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam...

First infraction! Flaming!

Last edited by zSilver_Fox; 08-15-2007 at 12:08 AM.
zSilver_Fox is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 12:22 AM   #13
Ihmhi
[AE] 0112 Ihmhi *SJB
Wiki Team
Fortress Forever Staff
 
Ihmhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Newark, NJ, United States
Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin'
Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin'
Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, *SJB Straight Jacket Brigade
Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times
Send a message via AIM to Ihmhi Send a message via MSN to Ihmhi Send a message via Yahoo to Ihmhi
If an African guy was born and raised in China, he might be ethnically African, but he is culturally Chinese.

It is less about the color of your skin and more about the culture (and perceptions thereof) you grew up in.
__________________
Support FF:
Anime: The Thread: Reloaded
The one and only anime thread on these here forums.

Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.
Ihmhi is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 12:26 AM   #14
zSilver_Fox
IRL Combat Medic
 
zSilver_Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ethanol Land
Class/Position: D Medic
Gametype: Conca Jumping
Affiliations: ^iv
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
True. And in my own experience, it seems that given that ethnicities tend to stick together here in America, the culture goes with them. Am I saying it's hardwired? No. However, I am saying that due to their skin color, cultural influences are made. And that's how not everyone is equal.
__________________
I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam...

First infraction! Flaming!
zSilver_Fox is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 12:57 AM   #15
squeek.
Stuff Do-er
Lua Team
Wiki Team
Fortress Forever Staff
 
squeek.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern California
Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter
Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait)
Affiliations: Mustache Brigade
Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times
Send a message via AIM to squeek.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox
True. And in my own experience, it seems that given that ethnicities tend to stick together here in America, the culture goes with them. Am I saying it's hardwired? No. However, I am saying that due to their skin color, cultural influences are made. And that's how not everyone is equal.
Because some cultures are better than others?

EDIT:
Quote:
Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox
Racism is the belief that your race is superior, or the repression of another because of race. However, it's just as ignorant to assume that there's no such thing as cultural differences that are affected by race.
Racism != ignorance. Even if belief of equality could be considered "ignorant".
squeek. is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 02:01 AM   #16
uBeR
Not ****** Yet
D&A Member
 
uBeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Minnesota
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox
Racism is the belief that your race is superior, or the repression of another because of race. However, it's just as ignorant to assume that there's no such thing as cultural differences that are affected by race.

Then again Uber, you also believe that we're the sole reason why the WORLD IS GOING TO FUCKING END, so I'm not surprised. Live real life for once, not a sheltered load of spoonfed bullshit.

I know several black people who are very well off and respectable. However, I do believe that race has an affect on culture and a person's upbringing based on todays world. If a white woman wants to have sex with a black man, go ahead. If it's vice versa, go ahead. I don't care what others do in bed. I've been through enough shit to know that race is a factor in some parts of a person's life, whether due to society or genetic reasons.

I believe that everyone is equal in terms of deserved rights. However, I do believe that people vary, and race can be a major factor.

Now excuse me, I peed my pants at the thought of getting in a fight with an internet tough-guy.
Well, Mr. Furry, your quote, "[it's] ignorant to assume that there's no such thing as cultural differences that are affected by race," matches perfectly with the definition of racism: "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement." It's clear you're a racist. There's no denying it. The problem you have, I think, is that you're simply ignorant and feed on the stereotypes you hear. You're still like 14 or something, so I'm not surprised you lack any great logical reasoning. But you're having a very tough time differentiating between race, ethnicity, and culture, and where these come from. This, also not surprising, considering you've probably had no formal education on the matter and spent you're entire life inside an animal outfit.
__________________
OCCUPATION 101.

One would think a simple task would be, well, simple. Maybe not for simpletons.
uBeR is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 02:59 AM   #17
Ihmhi
[AE] 0112 Ihmhi *SJB
Wiki Team
Fortress Forever Staff
 
Ihmhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Newark, NJ, United States
Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin'
Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin'
Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, *SJB Straight Jacket Brigade
Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times
Send a message via AIM to Ihmhi Send a message via MSN to Ihmhi Send a message via Yahoo to Ihmhi
Race is just a common gene pool!

Thanks to drunken Portuguese sailors were are all a bunch of mutts, and I doubt even the royal families of the world have completely untainted bloodlines.

And Hell, even if you do, what good is that for you? The lack of genetic variation will lead to a lot of bad things, like cancer and... cancer!

People rally around a few different things:

* Their country
* The color of their skin
* Their religion
* Their culture
* Their geneology (i.e. their ethnicity)

And that is about it!

Any statement nowadays is viewed as racist, sexist, blah blah blah. I wish people would just STFU about it and get a goddamned sense of humor. You know how racism loses its power? The same way anything else loses its power, humor. Does anyone really believe that the Polish people are honestly stupid enough to put a screen door on a submarine? I sure hope not.

Look at Nazis. How many people seriously think the Nazis did something good for the world? Population reduction aside, most people think what they did was very very bad save for a small, vocal, and largely ignorant minority. Now we get to enjoy laughing at animated GIFs of dancing Hitlers and Gundam characters drawn up as SS officers. We regularly re-enact the war where over 11,000,000 people died (people sure like to bitch about the 6,000,000 dead Jews and forget the other 5,000,000 dead people) in digital form as well as in real life (with reenactment societies).

What does this all boil down to?

I like motherfucking turtles, and people are a bunch of goddamned idiots. Laugh about the stupidity of the world as a whole and maybe life will be a little more tolerable.

Edit: And now that I have enacted Godwin's Law, this thread is officially over.

[/thread]
__________________
Support FF:
Anime: The Thread: Reloaded
The one and only anime thread on these here forums.

Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.
Ihmhi is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 03:48 AM   #18
zSilver_Fox
IRL Combat Medic
 
zSilver_Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ethanol Land
Class/Position: D Medic
Gametype: Conca Jumping
Affiliations: ^iv
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by uBeR
Well, Mr. Furry, your quote, "[it's] ignorant to assume that there's no such thing as cultural differences that are affected by race," matches perfectly with the definition of racism: "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement." It's clear you're a racist. There's no denying it. The problem you have, I think, is that you're simply ignorant and feed on the stereotypes you hear. You're still like 14 or something, so I'm not surprised you lack any great logical reasoning. But you're having a very tough time differentiating between race, ethnicity, and culture, and where these come from. This, also not surprising, considering you've probably had no formal education on the matter and spent you're entire life inside an animal outfit.
Almost 17 actually, so feel free to flame away. And no, I don't have a fursuit. Too poor for one.

I can quote online dictionaries too. Makes no difference. Call me a racist or a bigot if you want, I really couldn't care less, as demonstrated by the Muchez thread. I just find it funny that you take such stupid subjects so far on the internet (I know it's srs buisness, but srsly).


I do laugh a lot about the world, Imhi. Especially the intarwebs .

PS I have nothing against those who have different pigmentations than I do, or different genetic makeups. I just hate niggers, spics, chinks, and white trash. If you can't differentiate between a black person (ZOMG RACIST) and a nigger, then you need to get out more.

INTARWEBS FOR DA WIN!
__________________
I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam...

First infraction! Flaming!
zSilver_Fox is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 04:19 AM   #19
Backstaber
Custom User Title
D&A Member
 
Backstaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Jersey
Class/Position: Scout Offence
Gametype: Capture The Flag
Affiliations: None
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times
I think this warrants a picture.

Backstaber is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-15-2007, 04:24 AM   #20
zSilver_Fox
IRL Combat Medic
 
zSilver_Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ethanol Land
Class/Position: D Medic
Gametype: Conca Jumping
Affiliations: ^iv
Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times


Is what I was thinking of tbh.
__________________
I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam...

First infraction! Flaming!
zSilver_Fox is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.