FIXED: First attempt at mapping

liN · 10-23-2007, 09:59 PM

So I know I said I was making a conc map, but for kicks I decided to try and make a fortress. This was made today in about an hour. I have only worked with valve hammer a few times before this so I am quite the newb. Its not much but I want to know what you guys think about the architecture and the texture placement. Then from there I will move on and make it bigger and add the inner works.
http://picasaweb.google.com/mclaffli...54285111635026

Desyphur · 10-23-2007, 10:05 PM

Um, what am I going to comment on here. If you put up some pictures <.<

nodnarb · 10-23-2007, 10:19 PM

Well, I tried to fix your post, but it didn't work.
Quote his post to see the link to the image, the url tags won't work for some reason. =/

It looked pretty good, it's really castle-esque, though.

Desyphur · 10-23-2007, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liN

So I know I said I was making a conc map, but for kicks I decided to try and make a fortress. This was made today in about an hour. I have only worked with valve hammer a few times before this so I am quite the newb. Its not much but I want to know what you guys think about the architecture and the texture placement. Then from there I will move on and make it bigger and add the inner works.
http://lh5.google.com/mclafflin/Rx5t...f_untitled.jpg

for viewing pleasure

Oh wait, it says that you can't view the picture

liN · 10-23-2007, 10:48 PM

FIXED lol, sorry.

GambiT · 10-23-2007, 10:54 PM

i think it looks good man. good use of the textures and simple but nice design so far. i think it'll look good with like a dark sky and "night time" lighting.

liN · 10-23-2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GambiT

i think it looks good man. good use of the textures and simple but nice design so far. i think it'll look good with like a dark sky and "night time" lighting.

Good idea, I need practice with lighting anyway. I will be making the fortress larger soon.

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 10-23-2007, 10:59 PM

Yup, I'm diggin' it so far! Keep up the great work!

Desyphur · 10-23-2007, 11:26 PM

Oh there. Very nice!

EquilibriuM · 10-24-2007, 03:09 AM

1 pic and you guys r digging it? i cant make a judgement call of that 1 pic yet unless im missing something here. :P

Doompiggy · 10-24-2007, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeRo SkillZ

1 pic and you guys r digging it? i cant make a judgement call of that 1 pic yet unless im missing something here. :P

They're digging the nice mapping, not the map its self
HUR HUR~

GeoKill-----> · 10-24-2007, 03:39 AM

I like it so far

Ihmhi · 10-24-2007, 06:10 AM

I just got FF set up for mapping... I looked at a couple of vmfs that were kindly donated by a good friend (thanks GambiT!). I create a new file, and... nothing. I have no idea what the fuck I am doing.

Where is a good place to start?

Do you have to create the entire thing in wireframe first and then texture it, or can you, say, create a box, texture it, create another box, texture it, etc.?

I think I might fare better if I just created a big box to put everything in so I have a floor and walls for a point of reference. (Of course, this ginormous box would be deleted before compiling... d; )

So yeah, where is a good place to start? I am lost in the blackness of Hammerspace. @_@

Doompiggy · 10-24-2007, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihmhi

I just got FF set up for mapping... I looked at a couple of vmfs that were kindly donated by a good friend (thanks GambiT!). I create a new file, and... nothing. I have no idea what the fuck I am doing.

Where is a good place to start?

Do you have to create the entire thing in wireframe first and then texture it, or can you, say, create a box, texture it, create another box, texture it, etc.?

I think I might fare better if I just created a big box to put everything in so I have a floor and walls for a point of reference. (Of course, this ginormous box would be deleted before compiling... d; )

So yeah, where is a good place to start? I am lost in the blackness of Hammerspace. @_@

www.halfwit-2.com
www.interlopers.net

liN · 10-24-2007, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihmhi

I just got FF set up for mapping... I looked at a couple of vmfs that were kindly donated by a good friend (thanks GambiT!). I create a new file, and... nothing. I have no idea what the fuck I am doing.

Where is a good place to start?

Do you have to create the entire thing in wireframe first and then texture it, or can you, say, create a box, texture it, create another box, texture it, etc.?

I think I might fare better if I just created a big box to put everything in so I have a floor and walls for a point of reference. (Of course, this ginormous box would be deleted before compiling... d; )

So yeah, where is a good place to start? I am lost in the blackness of Hammerspace. @_@

Well when you first goto file new, goto view->center 3d views on selection. Also goto view->autosize 4 views. Then I go under the current texture tab on the right hand of the screen and I click browse. I search in the filter box dev_measure. Then I start mapping. I usually drag out the blocks on the top down view (the top right black box

) then I use the side/front view to add height and what not. Also remember when the block tool is selected there is a box in the bottom right of the screen that says objects. You can change from block to cylinder and arch to make some curves. Pretty much just use interlopers and other sites and mess around, thats how I learned. You will figure things out as you go along like ctrl+f on a vertex splits it, and alt+e on a group of vertexs scales the object. Really just mess around and read tutorials. Good luck!

GambiT · 10-24-2007, 03:31 PM

also to enlarge a section use "shift+z", you must click in the view you want to enlarge first.

-=bingo-bango=- · 10-24-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeRo SkillZ

1 pic and you guys r digging it? i cant make a judgement call of that 1 pic yet unless im missing something here. :P

quality, not quality my dear friend

from what hes shown us so far, he knows how to texture properly, scale properly, add lighting, arches, props, decals, and that "knows how to design that mutha" sorta skill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihmhi

I just got FF set up for mapping...

heres where you wanna start with some beginners video tutorials
http://interlopers.net/index.php?page=video

and heres a index with several tutorials that will help you out greatly
http://interlopers.net/index.php?page=tutorials

and lin, you should take a look at the second link at least as well

totoro^vi · 10-24-2007, 06:07 PM

Yeah, what you have so far looks good, I'll agree with zero that there is a lot more that makes a map but proper texturing and brushwork is huge.

btw: I checked briefly that interlopers site and the spotlight map, de_forest, made me shit bricks, true story. The time that must have taken to compile... whatever, I'm depressed now.

GambiT · 10-24-2007, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totoro^vi

Yeah, what you have so far looks good, I'll agree with zero that there is a lot more that makes a map but proper texturing and brushwork is huge.

btw: I checked briefly that interlopers site and the spotlight map, de_forest, made me shit bricks, true story. The time that must have taken to compile... whatever, I'm depressed now.

actually im willing to bet that the compile time wasnt that bad, assuming that the brush work behind/underneath the displacements were done properly and neatly.

Desyphur · 10-24-2007, 06:16 PM

Is this first try for mapping ever? Be cause I can't get my maps to look that good in an hour >.>

10-23-2007, 09:59 PM	#1
liN Valid XHTML 1.0! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Class/Position: Offense: Scout/Medic. Defense: Solly Gametype: AVD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	FIXED: First attempt at mapping So I know I said I was making a conc map, but for kicks I decided to try and make a fortress. This was made today in about an hour. I have only worked with valve hammer a few times before this so I am quite the newb. Its not much but I want to know what you guys think about the architecture and the texture placement. Then from there I will move on and make it bigger and add the inner works. http://picasaweb.google.com/mclaffli...54285111635026 Last edited by liN; 10-23-2007 at 10:50 PM.

10-23-2007, 10:05 PM	#2
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Um, what am I going to comment on here. If you put up some pictures <.< __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

10-23-2007, 10:54 PM	#6
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i think it looks good man. good use of the textures and simple but nice design so far. i think it'll look good with like a dark sky and "night time" lighting. __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

10-23-2007, 10:59 PM	#8
[AE] 5316 TKZ D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Class/Position: Medic - O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [AE] Asseater Clan Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yup, I'm diggin' it so far! Keep up the great work! __________________ ================================================== \| [AE] Clan \| Rated R - Langauge/Violence/Adult Themes ICQ #:151482789 * AIM: fl4shbang * Y!: greerjt2000 ==================================================

10-23-2007, 11:26 PM	#9
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Oh there. Very nice! __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

10-23-2007, 10:19 PM	#3
nodnarb Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Well, I tried to fix your post, but it didn't work. Quote his post to see the link to the image, the url tags won't work for some reason. =/ It looked pretty good, it's really castle-esque, though.

10-23-2007, 10:48 PM	#5
liN Valid XHTML 1.0! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Class/Position: Offense: Scout/Medic. Defense: Solly Gametype: AVD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	FIXED lol, sorry.

10-24-2007, 03:09 AM	#10
EquilibriuM G9- D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Class/Position: D Solly,Engy Gametype: ALL Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	1 pic and you guys r digging it? i cant make a judgement call of that 1 pic yet unless im missing something here. :P

10-24-2007, 03:39 AM	#12
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	I like it so far __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

10-24-2007, 06:10 AM	#13
Ihmhi [AE] 0112 Ihmhi SJB Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newark, NJ, United States Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin' Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin' Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, SJB Straight Jacket Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	I just got FF set up for mapping... I looked at a couple of vmfs that were kindly donated by a good friend (thanks GambiT!). I create a new file, and... nothing. I have no idea what the fuck I am doing. Where is a good place to start? Do you have to create the entire thing in wireframe first and then texture it, or can you, say, create a box, texture it, create another box, texture it, etc.? I think I might fare better if I just created a big box to put everything in so I have a floor and walls for a point of reference. (Of course, this ginormous box would be deleted before compiling... d; ) So yeah, where is a good place to start? I am lost in the blackness of Hammerspace. @_@ __________________ Support FF: Anime: The Thread: Reloaded The one and only anime thread on these here forums. Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.

10-24-2007, 03:31 PM	#16
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	also to enlarge a section use "shift+z", you must click in the view you want to enlarge first. __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

10-24-2007, 06:07 PM	#18
totoro^vi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, what you have so far looks good, I'll agree with zero that there is a lot more that makes a map but proper texturing and brushwork is huge. btw: I checked briefly that interlopers site and the spotlight map, de_forest, made me shit bricks, true story. The time that must have taken to compile... whatever, I'm depressed now.

10-24-2007, 06:16 PM	#20
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Is this first try for mapping ever? Be cause I can't get my maps to look that good in an hour >.> __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

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