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Private_Joker 04-06-2015 10:19 PM

Bully vox
 
Let me preface by saying that I love each and every member of the dev team, past and present, more than I love my dogs and my mother, and I am literally each of your super best friends forever, with benefits.

I hate the bully voice more than I've hated any art feature of any video game I've ever played. It's so incredibly annoying that I can't imagine that FF hasn't lost players purely for the fact that it's so terrible and that, consciously or unconsciously, they can't stand it.

I humbly but forcefully request that the default sentences file be changed back to either female or robot.

Hugs and kisses,
Joker

Iggy 04-06-2015 10:23 PM

...or at the very least..... switchable.

I actually like the female vox. Kinda sexy, in a "nerdy" kinda way.

Private_Joker 04-06-2015 10:38 PM

It is switchable.
See http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=12651

And, she has a dirty vagina.
See http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...67&postcount=2

-Joker

Bully 04-06-2015 10:38 PM

Hey i'm cool with that Private_Joker, not everyone digs my voice and i don't take it personal in anyway.. you can't please everyone :)

There's nothing stopping you replacing the files with what doesn't offend you, simple.

Private_Joker 04-06-2015 10:48 PM

It's really not the voice, the voice is fine. It's the tones and inflections and stuff. It's just so forceful and obnoxious. It would be great if a forceful, obnoxious voice were called for. But the vox is just supposed to be conveying neutral, passive information to the player. I like the female vox because the gentler tones and inflections make it contrast with all the violence and chaos, so it stands out but it isn't distracting.

Again, my point is larger than just about my own taste. The recordings are fine and Bully's voice is manly and baddass duke-nukem-esqe. If I'm the only one or even in the small minority, then there's zero problem. My concern is that it's unappealing to potential players enough to turn them off before they get into the playing.

-Joker

[TALOS]Smoke 04-06-2015 10:53 PM

I think if the vox is enough to dissuade people from playing FF, then is it really that big of a loss?
I can't stand the trader vox in KF (in fact I'd rather eat glass than hear it) but that never stopped me from playing.
IMO, I think Bully is fine and if anything would like to see a broader set of phrases down the road. Maybe ones that are less generic and that pertain to different game modes.

StinkyTaco 04-06-2015 11:30 PM

I like the old Half-life 1 vox voice.

The default voice drive me up the wall too.

WiFiDi 04-07-2015 12:07 AM

the dream would be to get enough voice actors so that bully isn't the only one doing the voice acting. tbh i don't find him annoying rather thati find it repetitive to hear bully announcer, bully soldier, bully scout, etc... what we really could use is more voice actors. (those are ofc hard to find hence "the dream") :mrgreen:

it wouldn't even have to a seperate voice per class and annoucner. it would just need to have a few voice actors so that bullys isn't the only voice you ever hear.

Bully 04-07-2015 12:24 AM

Yeah i think we've been here before with this discussion and the door is always open to submissions. They need to be a high standard though, as well as sound quality.

KubeDawg 04-07-2015 01:15 AM

I agree with Iggy. There needs to be an in-game option to switch between available vox's so you don't have to have to use the current method to switch vox's.

I personlly like Bully's vox the most, though I still use the TFC robot voice sometimes. The TFC voice talks so slow though so that might be a factor.

FDA_Approved 04-07-2015 01:33 AM

I think it's a pretty common opinion among new players that the default vox is somewhat obnoxious. I too prefer the lady voice and recently switched to that.

the_cake 04-07-2015 03:17 AM

While I don't mind the Bully voice, I have seen new players not yet exposed to community bandwagon opinions have the "wtf is this voice" reaction. It should at the very least be switchable in fortress options.

eomoyaff 04-07-2015 08:20 AM

Where's leo_wanker at? I want my scout to sound like a drunken aussie. 8-)

Bully 04-07-2015 10:18 AM

FDA have you seen / heard people in game complaining ?
I would have thought that new players would have mentioned this on the steam store reviews page.

254 positive
17 negative

Out of the negative reviews only one person mentions that the vocals on the training get's repetitive if you can't complete that section.

The community section discussions don't mention anything either. These would have been the locations that i would have expected new players to have made any comment regarding this.

caesium 04-07-2015 01:09 PM

I like Bully shouting at me, but I don't see any harm in it being selectable in the Fortress Options if there's a decent alternative.

Nothing 04-07-2015 02:33 PM

Is it possible to lower the volume of any of the voices you're using? I don't think I could find an in-game option to lower the volume, and it's almost ear blasting at times.

I changed to the TFC vox recently for nostalgia purposes and hoping it would be a little quieter than Bully, but it's still about as loud.

squeek. 04-07-2015 04:13 PM

https://github.com/fortressforever/f...ever/issues/86

Private_Joker 04-07-2015 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bully (Post 508113)
The community section discussions don't mention anything either. These would have been the locations that i would have expected new players to have made any comment regarding this.

This is a really good point. Kudos for actually bringing empirical evidence into a discussion.

I think at the very least the wide range of sensibilities about this merits an easy in-game switch.

Even better, shortly following that update--so, about 2 years from now :D --there could be a poll on the forums asking people what their favorite vox is. The next update, in turn, could make that the default.

-Joker

[TALOS]Smoke 04-07-2015 11:55 PM

How hard can it be to find 9 or so people willing to lend their voice? I'd love to hear a gravel throated rasp coming from the demo, and maybe someone Arnold Schwartzenwhatever'esque for the HW. I like Bully as the Solly and think his voice fits perfect. For the medic maybe a voice a little higher pitched, and what's to say for pyro or spy maybe toss in a slightly muffled female voice?
Granted these are just ideas, but how hard can it be?

WiFiDi 04-08-2015 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [TALOS]Smoke (Post 508129)
How hard can it be to find 9 or so people willing to lend their voice?

9 random guys easy, would it sound liek shit probably. you have to have good sound quality which means a good quality mic, soundproof/reistent room (so no echos and what not.) then you have to have the talent/voice. put those three things together and well its not easy. (they also have to be willing to do it for free.)

honestly more i think about it FF tends to be more "realistic" (I use this term very loosely) in its approach, (perhaps better said) less over the top than tf2 honestly it might be better if each class didn't have a unique voice. to elude to the fact that these are a bunch of soidlers fighting not 9 guys and there army of selves fighting the enemy of themselves. so each 2 or 3 (or more) people do lines for all the class says bullys current lines says the lines with a few varitions of wording or own flair so that they don't' all sound carbon copies of eachother. (ex: each va having there different phrase/style for calling for "medic!".)

ofc thats assuming we can even get any VA's.

with FF steam release maybe now or soon is the time to start looking for a few voice actors even if we can only get 2 more or even 1 more that way bully isn't all alone talking amongst his clones. :mrgreen:

though you could turn this in your favor and just edit in "FF story" and say that each class is a clone of bully endlessly fighting against himself in a never ending battle ;)


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