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Old 02-17-2005, 01:58 PM   #1
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What are yall thoughts on ways to limit cheating?!?

OK, if this topic has already been done i appologies. I have yet to see it and i know yall love to toss pitch forks at people who bring up old topics. With that said, my question to the dev. team is, can you prevent cheats for FF better then it has been for TFC. God knows there is a long ban list in the leagues and we all know they are like roaches, for everyone you see there is a dozen hiding. So, what are yall's plan to help limit cheaters. Heck i'd choose limited customizing if it made cheating harder. Anyways, what are yall thoughts on this issue.
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:13 PM   #2
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I swear there was a topic about this. Its getting harder to find old topics since these boards are growing. But somewhere they said they were going to work on their own method of "anti-cheat".
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:37 PM   #3
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That was indeed all that was mentioned SoBe, i dont think it came up under its own topic about cheat prevention though so god knows where it is.

Like the rest of the source games we will have VAC which keeps all the cheats away due to its frequent updates and amazing cheat detection systems.....

Ok sarcasm off, would be interesting to hear something more concrete from the dev's on this, but if there is anything in the works its in all our interests they dont share too much about it. imho it will be something to be looked at properly once the actual MOD is released and not before tho.
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:08 PM   #4
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I would imagine with Billdoor and rebo on the team the anti-cheat aspect will be very, very well covered and updated regularly, leaving us the options to either:

a) burn all cheats at the stake and sell their immediate family into slavery

b) ip ban them from all servers on an updated list supplied by the FF team

Although many favour option a), I htink option b) is more likely
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:27 PM   #5
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Please, please, please, please, please stop advocating IP banning. Many, many IPs are dynamic. I do not need to load a game/forum/anything else only to find that I cannot use it because some numpty has gone and got an IP banned and I have picked it up when I dial in...

Steam has steamid's for a reason, please don't advocate other methods.
*Buys static IP address

*Edit - Option C, have online cheating made into an offence and allow server admins to procecute. Doubt mummy and daddy will be to happy when thier 12 year old gets thier nice expensive computer removed and destroyed
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:33 PM   #6
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We have some good anti cheat ideas and technology available to us but ofcouse I hope you understand that we cannot give details at present.
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:35 PM   #7
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Link the only problem with option C is that you can't make a law in one country that will apply in others.

BTW, nice name seeing as how it is my last name
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:19 PM   #8
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I would imagine with Billdoor and rebo on the team the anti-cheat aspect will be very, very well covered and updated regularly
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Agree 1000000000% with that opinion, given their uncanny assistance in helping out with those issues for TFC.

One can only hope that myg0t, hogz, and others of their obscene ilk do not reappear and raise their ugly stench. But if they do, I'm all for castration and pre-frontal lobotomies as deterrents.
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:24 PM   #9
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I'm not so much a vengence sorta guy when it comes to cheats... I generaly just leave any server with people cheating on them as to prevent me from reaching such a level of anger...

But a perm ban from all servers, all mods, etc would be terrific punishment. If there was a way to uninstall steam from their comp that would be fun too

But I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:32 PM   #10
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We're going to implement a system that sends us the home address of people found cheating, and then we'll go murder them.
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:38 PM   #11
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I would like to volenteer for the team that goes around murding cheaters
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:46 PM   #12
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and id like to mail them one of my own bowel movements, a poo in the post so to speak.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:18 PM   #13
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trepid for prez
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:29 PM   #14
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trepid for prez
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:45 PM   #15
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We're going to implement a system that sends us the home address of people found cheating, and then we'll go murder them.
I nominate myself for official get-away-incase-the-cops-come driver. License plate "VAC4REALZ" roffles
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Old 02-17-2005, 10:12 PM   #16
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We're going to implement a system that sends us the home address of people found cheating, and then we'll go murder them.
Beautiful
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Old 02-17-2005, 10:23 PM   #17
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hopefully it wont be LagBuster. Farcry made you have to use it before you could play and frequently update it. How was the anti cheat that DoD used to use ? Creeping Death ? (i cant remember the name, something like that i think)

Are you guys going to create something yourselves to catch cheaters or work out a deal with another party ?
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Old 02-17-2005, 11:47 PM   #18
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MAKE SURE YOU CANNOT ACCESS THE COMMAND

r_shadowids

its basically an in game wallhack. Gives all shadows in the game a number u can see thru most most walls, i found out about this the otherday, which explains a lot about some people i play with.
So basically, u see these numbers moving around if they are a person. Although its included in the source engine, I consider it cheating. Try it yourself 0 turns it off and 1 turns it on. Youll see what im talking about.
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Old 02-18-2005, 12:41 AM   #19
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Thats just been fixed in the steam update.

Added FCVAR_CHEAT to r_shadowids
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Old 02-18-2005, 06:48 AM   #20
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hopefully it wont be LagBuster. Farcry made you have to use it before you could play and frequently update it. How was the anti cheat that DoD used to use ? Creeping Death ? (i cant remember the name, something like that i think)

Are you guys going to create something yourselves to catch cheaters or work out a deal with another party ?
Cheating Death is the name your looking for.
Creeping Death was a Metallica song. :P
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