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View Poll Results: Vista-be-gone?
Yes, switched back to Xp 13 30.23%
No, still use Vista *sigh* 14 32.56%
I never bothered to install Vista anyway 16 37.21%
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:48 PM   #21
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i'm rather sceptical of gaming through a fully fledged virtual machine. if the game doesnt run natively, wine *should* be a more logical step than running a complete VM, surely?
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Old 01-02-2009, 03:20 PM   #22
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...and turned back to XP.
I'am wondering why you ever installed vista to start with???

In between windows 98 and XP there was an operating system called millennium. Vista is another millennium. In 5 years people will be calling its microsofts 2nd red headed step child.
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I hope windows 7 will be the next windows xp.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:17 PM   #24
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I'am wondering why you ever installed vista to start with???
Work related issues and halo2.

Yeah I know...
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:36 PM   #25
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I'am wondering why you ever installed vista to start with???

In between windows 98 and XP there was an operating system called millennium. Vista is another millennium. In 5 years people will be calling its microsofts 2nd red headed step child.
no, vista is not the new ME. i disagree.

and windows 7 is not the "Vista is should've been" or w/e. it's just an improvement to vista, a minor one at that. Vista changed a lot under the hood, windows 7 is more for the interface this time around
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:56 PM   #26
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How Microsoft thinks: We fucked up [OS here]. Time to release a new operating system, which isn't really new at all. We'll steal some 'unique' yet old features from actually decent operating systems and market them as 'new leaps forward in operating system technology" .. Really, it's just a distraction. Driver problems? Hey, about that.. Uhh.. Woah, check this out! A sidebar With gadgets! Oooo, huh?! Then, upgrade the graphical interface a bit so people figure it's a whole new deal when it's the same bullshit as before, and.. Of course, the fuck ups. We'll fix those through more fuck ups. No biggie, right? Windows 7,000,000 is coming out to address these new fuck ups.
How Microsoft should think: We fucked up [OS here]. Let's fix the problems on the operating system we messed up so people who spent hundreds of their possibly hard-earned money can get the best out of the product as promised, instead of cooking up fruad with the release of another operating system.
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no, vista is not the new ME. i disagree.

and windows 7 is not the "Vista is should've been" or w/e. it's just an improvement to vista, a minor one at that. Vista changed a lot under the hood, windows 7 is more for the interface this time around
i thought vista was all about interface?
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:23 AM   #28
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i thought vista was all about interface?
Security as well...though some of Microsofts changes were puzzling as much as they were ineffective.
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:26 AM   #29
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my stance on vista:

it's not the crapware that everyone thinks it is, it wont blow up your computer if you install it. But, i also think it's not worth 120 bucks for an upgrade. if you get it in a pre-built, i wouldnt care. but i will not run out and buy it
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:09 AM   #30
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Work related issues and halo2.

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while i played halo 2 on XP...bummer

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i thought vista was all about interface?
it never changed a whole lot in my opinion. And from what ive seen of codename 7, it doesnt look too different either
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Just get microsofts operating systems 3-5 years after they are released.
They usually have fixed a decent amount of shit by then :P.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:05 PM   #32
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Security as well...though some of Microsofts changes were puzzling as much as they were ineffective.
I always thought UAC was good... ?
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there's nothing wrong with Vista except bad rep
Then why don't many corporations support it for their users? It completely sucks and has many compatibility issues. It's especially shitty for VPN.
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while i played halo 2 on XP...bummer



it never changed a whole lot in my opinion. And from what ive seen of codename 7, it doesnt look too different either
Yeah I got the DX10 for XP alpha release, I have +10 FPS on XP with Halo 2...


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I always thought UAC was good... ?
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For who? There's many ways to implement a tiered security model without being obtrusive and annoying. I think that UAC is a pathetic implementation and far easier to work around to escalate privileges than it should be. It reminds me of gun control laws...the only people it affects are those who weren't trying to do anything wrong to begin with. The turds are going to get around it anyway.
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For who? There's many ways to implement a tiered security model without being obtrusive and annoying. I think that UAC is a pathetic implementation and far easier to work around to escalate privileges than it should be. It reminds me of gun control laws...the only people it affects are those who weren't trying to do anything wrong to begin with. The turds are going to get around it anyway.
just like DRM
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just like DRM
Well I can think of many reasonable justifications for tiered privileges and methods for controlled escalation. Making that work well makes sense for me. Blocking the assholes from being able to compromise you...that makes sense. DRM, OTOH, only hurts the innocent and people that weren't going to steal to begin with.

Perhaps I'm missing your point on DRM? Under what circumstances does DRM make sense? How would you change the implementation?
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thats what i meant, DRM only hurts the honest people
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no, vista is not the new ME. i disagree.

and windows 7 is not the "Vista is should've been" or w/e. it's just an improvement to vista, a minor one at that. Vista changed a lot under the hood, windows 7 is more for the interface this time around
I doubt you even know what you're talking about, Windows 7 has a shitload of awesome changes and new features.
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thats what i meant, DRM only hurts the honest people
Again, just so I'm clear, are you suggesting that privilege escalation (ala UAC) has to do with people being dishonest?
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