Palermo

Innoc · 06-05-2008, 01:22 AM

I don't know if the creator's name is mentioned in the splash screen for that map and I haven't taken the time to look it up in the site blogs....but I have to say that you are my hero. Palermo is, hands down, my absolute favorite map. kudos to you!

**squeek.** · 06-05-2008, 02:13 AM

It's Zouave.

Pon · 06-05-2008, 04:09 AM

Zouave, the mighty god of AvD maps

Seriously, his AvD and ID maps for TFC were by and large the best out there. Ksour, Cornfield, Osaka and cmhf to name just a few others. All great maps

Ihmhi · 06-05-2008, 04:13 AM

Fuck someone make Osaka already. ):

GeoKill-----> · 06-05-2008, 04:42 AM

Palermo is my favorite map as well. When both teams have a solid D and a good O, its really fun. Cornfield is fun too.

Ginger Lord · 06-05-2008, 09:09 AM

Palermo is horrible.

Firefox11 · 06-05-2008, 09:43 AM

^
Lies.

Just make the Capture Zone lower so you actually have to touch the CP to capture, making it easier for Demomen to pipe jumpers, and it's good to go.

Another thing is that you don't like AvD, because Palermo is one of the most popular AvD maps (in TFC, because FF only has 3 or 4 AvD maps...)

Ginger Lord · 06-05-2008, 10:08 AM

I say its horrible because the lighting is god awful, the map is unfinished and I have no idea how it was let in because I know a few of the team were against putting it in when v1.0 came around.

Innoc · 06-05-2008, 01:43 PM

Never noticed the lighting. Honestly, I am more focused on the gameplay and the layout of the map. I like the flow of the map particularly when you have a couple of decently balanced teams. If the lighting is the only complaint isn't that pretty minor? Seriously, some of the best games ever haven't always been the prettiest of their generation.

Firefox11 · 06-05-2008, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Lord

I say its horrible because the lighting is god awful, the map is unfinished and I have no idea how it was let in because I know a few of the team were against putting it in when v1.0 came around.

Then sorry for my misunderstanding of your words (my statement/suggestion is still up though). And as Innoc said, if the map flows right not much people will stand there to see how awful the lighting is, or how there are some spots that are not finished. Yes, this helps the mod giving a professional look to the map to new players, but most people would like a good round on a dev textured map (orange and grey) than playing in an amazing map but that offers poor gameplay (of course, a good game on an amazing map is the best choice =D)

greenday5494 · 06-05-2008, 07:15 PM

look at the popularity of the orange maps in TF2

ensiform · 06-05-2008, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoc

Never noticed the lighting. Honestly, I am more focused on the gameplay and the layout of the map. I like the flow of the map particularly when you have a couple of decently balanced teams. If the lighting is the only complaint isn't that pretty minor? Seriously, some of the best games ever haven't always been the prettiest of their generation.

Lighting is easily noticeable with the lousy fps that the map has. But there are other things causing it too. This is being discussed in beta now how it should be fixed up, etc.

GeoKill-----> · 06-05-2008, 08:06 PM

I really never had a problem with palermo

FooL · 06-05-2008, 08:17 PM

palermo is sick nothing wrong with the lighting try fiddling with your gamma brightness and contrast

Ginger Lord · 06-05-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FooL

palermo is sick nothing wrong with the lighting try fiddling with your gamma brightness and contrast

Trust me, I have the source files and the lighting is all levels of wrong.

Now to decide to put the correct lighting in, which makes it rather dim, or a new bright sky and brighter lighting.

Pon · 06-05-2008, 08:22 PM

I think what Ginger is trying to say is that the sky and the lighting used don't match up, not that it's not bright enough or whatever.

While not a big problem I guess (to me at least, when playing I don't really notice it), it might look better if they did match.

That said, were I asked, I'd prefer the sky was changed to match the light, and not the light changed to match the sky

GeoKill-----> · 06-05-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

That said, were I asked, I'd prefer the sky was changed to match the light, and not the light changed to match the sky

ya

Ginger Lord · 06-05-2008, 08:27 PM

Unfortunatly theres no obnoxious yellow/green skies so I'm replacing the lighting and sky with a realistic set with a similar if not brighter light level.

chilledsanity · 06-05-2008, 08:38 PM

Here's a thread I made a while ago on the problems with Palermo:

link

Basically the lighting's off as is the sun, and skybox. Unless you've played it a whole bunch of times (which I have by now), it's pretty confusing to navigate.

Ginger Lord · 06-05-2008, 08:56 PM

How about some CZ2 like lasers into the sky?

06-05-2008, 01:22 AM	#1
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	Palermo I don't know if the creator's name is mentioned in the splash screen for that map and I haven't taken the time to look it up in the site blogs....but I have to say that you are my hero. Palermo is, hands down, my absolute favorite map. kudos to you! __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

06-05-2008, 02:13 AM	#2
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06-05-2008, 04:09 AM	#3
Pon Not choking. Yet. Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Scotland Class/Position: Demo/Def - Spy/Off Gametype: Anything but yet more fucking CTF Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Zouave, the mighty god of AvD maps Seriously, his AvD and ID maps for TFC were by and large the best out there. Ksour, Cornfield, Osaka and cmhf to name just a few others. All great maps __________________ Support FF: YOU GUYS REALLY SHOULD UPDATE YOUR STAFF LIST! I haven't posted since 2010... Preferable to death. But only just... -\ff_basicbowl\|ff_duckhunt\|ff_rock2_qnd\|ff_vats_koth/-

06-05-2008, 04:13 AM	#4
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06-05-2008, 04:42 AM	#5
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Palermo is my favorite map as well. When both teams have a solid D and a good O, its really fun. Cornfield is fun too. __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

06-05-2008, 09:09 AM	#6
Ginger Lord Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny England Affiliations: Custard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Palermo is horrible.

06-05-2008, 09:43 AM	#7
Firefox11 Join Date: Dec 2007 Class/Position: O&D: Pyro, Sniper Gametype: AvD Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	^ Lies. Just make the Capture Zone lower so you actually have to touch the CP to capture, making it easier for Demomen to pipe jumpers, and it's good to go. Another thing is that you don't like AvD, because Palermo is one of the most popular AvD maps (in TFC, because FF only has 3 or 4 AvD maps...)

06-05-2008, 10:08 AM	#8
Ginger Lord Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny England Affiliations: Custard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I say its horrible because the lighting is god awful, the map is unfinished and I have no idea how it was let in because I know a few of the team were against putting it in when v1.0 came around.

06-05-2008, 01:43 PM	#9
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	Never noticed the lighting. Honestly, I am more focused on the gameplay and the layout of the map. I like the flow of the map particularly when you have a couple of decently balanced teams. If the lighting is the only complaint isn't that pretty minor? Seriously, some of the best games ever haven't always been the prettiest of their generation. __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

06-05-2008, 07:15 PM	#11
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	look at the popularity of the orange maps in TF2 __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

06-05-2008, 08:06 PM	#13
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	I really never had a problem with palermo __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

06-05-2008, 08:17 PM	#14
FooL Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	palermo is sick nothing wrong with the lighting try fiddling with your gamma brightness and contrast

06-05-2008, 08:22 PM	#16
Pon Not choking. Yet. Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Scotland Class/Position: Demo/Def - Spy/Off Gametype: Anything but yet more fucking CTF Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think what Ginger is trying to say is that the sky and the lighting used don't match up, not that it's not bright enough or whatever. While not a big problem I guess (to me at least, when playing I don't really notice it), it might look better if they did match. That said, were I asked, I'd prefer the sky was changed to match the light, and not the light changed to match the sky __________________ Support FF: YOU GUYS REALLY SHOULD UPDATE YOUR STAFF LIST! I haven't posted since 2010... Preferable to death. But only just... -\ff_basicbowl\|ff_duckhunt\|ff_rock2_qnd\|ff_vats_koth/-

06-05-2008, 08:27 PM	#18
Ginger Lord Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny England Affiliations: Custard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Unfortunatly theres no obnoxious yellow/green skies so I'm replacing the lighting and sky with a realistic set with a similar if not brighter light level.

06-05-2008, 08:38 PM	#19
chilledsanity D&A Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Gametype: AvD, I/D, waterpolo, hunted Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Here's a thread I made a while ago on the problems with Palermo: link Basically the lighting's off as is the sun, and skybox. Unless you've played it a whole bunch of times (which I have by now), it's pretty confusing to navigate.

06-05-2008, 08:56 PM	#20
Ginger Lord Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny England Affiliations: Custard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How about some CZ2 like lasers into the sky?

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